Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?

[sadie]

Not in the slightest, but it does seem to bother to you.

Her perception as you call it, as it is your, the Mccanns have done nothing wrong.

As to the myths from those  whom you call allies, and your 'stories'. Well if others want to reach words of fiction, so be it.

Stephen, whenever I post one of my theories, I always present it as such.  I am always open to constructive criticisms, but I do not expect the petty sniping and put downs to deliberately undermine and destroy ideas that might be correct

I have moved way beyond the PdL scenario now on to further interesting places and peeps, but I still enjoy trying to analyse things and trying to hypothesize at the PdL end of ther abduction.

Of course I dont get everything right.  I willingly acknowledge that.  But it can only do good for peeps to see my theories and contribute constructively.  By which I mean that I can accept constructive criticism.  If it seems correct, then I alter my ideas accordingly.

You will notice that i did that in sadies theory,  Because of some person, was it you?, pointing out something that I had missed, I changed the side of the road that Gerry and Jez were talking on.

And it improved my theory

Cheers

[stephen25000]

Stephen, whenever I post one of my theories, I always present it as such.  I am always open to constructive criticisms, but I do not expect the petty sniping and put downs to deliberately undermine and destroy ideas that might be correct

I have moved way beyond the PdL scenario now on to further interesting places and peeps, but I still enjoy trying to analyse things and trying to hypothesize at the PdL end of ther abduction.

Of course I dont get everything right.  I willingly acknowledge that.  But it can only do good for peeps to see my theories and contribute constructively.  By which I mean that I can accept constructive criticism.  If it seems correct, then I alter my ideas accordingly.

You will notice that i did that in sadies theory,  Because of some person, was it you?, pointing out something that I had missed, I changed the side of the road that Gerry and Jez were talking on.

And it improved my theory

Cheers

Merely because you post a picture does not mean it was the picture of the object under discussion.

Surely , you must know that.

[Eleanor]

Stephen, whenever I post one of my theories, I always present it as such.  I am always open to constructive criticisms, but I do not expect the petty sniping and put downs to deliberately undermine and destroy ideas that might be correct

I have moved way beyond the PdL scenario now on to further interesting places and peeps, but I still enjoy trying to analyse things and trying to hypothesize at the PdL end of ther abduction.

Of course I dont get everything right.  I willingly acknowledge that.  But it can only do good for peeps to see my theories and contribute constructively.  By which I mean that I can accept constructive criticism.  If it seems correct, then I alter my ideas accordingly.

You will notice that i did that in sadies theory,  Because of some person, was it you?, pointing out something that I had missed, I changed the side of the road that Gerry and Jez were talking on.

And it improved my theory

Cheers

Don't apologise, Sadie.  You have done so much more than most.

[sadie]

That was on a different thread Stephen, but IIRC it was part of the Official files.

Right, lets get back to the topic this thread is about

*  Re: Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?  *

What do you think that Cameron might be holidaying in PT for?  Will it extend beyond holiday?




Oh thanks Eleanor.  Have tried but slowed down a lot now.  Am tired of abuse.

[Eleanor]

That was on a different thread Stephen, but IIRC it was part of the Official files.

Right, lets get back to the topic this thread is about

*  Re: Not so Rosy a relationship between the PJ and SY after all?  *

What do you think that Cameron might be holidaying in PT for?  Will it extend beyond holiday?




Oh thanks Eleanor.  Have tried but slowed down a lot now.  Am tired of abuse.

Aren't we all tired of abuse, Sadie.  It is almost impossible to comment without receiving some such snide remark, and only makes me wonder for why it is necessary.

[sadie]

Aren't we all tired of abuse, Sadie.  It is almost impossible to comment without receiving some such snide remark, and only makes me wonder for why it is necessary.

Yea, I had noticed you get more than your fair share too.

Abuse comes when they haven't an answer.  Covers up their inability to answer.  IMO

Pat yourself on the back if a sudden tirade of abuse hits you.  You know you have scored a good point.

[Eleanor]

Yea, I had noticed you get more than your fair share too.

Abuse comes when they haven't an answer.  Covers up their inability to answer.  IMO

Pat yourself on the back if a sudden tirade of abuse hits you.  You know you have scored a good point.

Actually, I would rather not, Sadie.  I have only ever wanted to comment in peace.  But do you really think that I upset them?  It was never my intention.

[sadie]

Actually, I would rather not, Sadie.  I have only ever wanted to comment in peace.  But do you really think that I upset them?  It was never my intention.

Some of them, you dont have to upset Eleanor.  Just be persistent or say something thay cant answer and the abuse starts.  You have scored a point.

Please put up with the abuse.  We need your special arguments; you come in from a different angle very often.  Keep going ... but I know exactly what you mean

[John]

My advice is not to respond to any posts which are abusive and simply report them as they will be deleted in any event. TY

[sadie]

Thanks John.

We all know that is sound advice, but it is not easy when constant abuse is aimed at you ... and lies there, often for hours.  Mud sticks you know


Anyway, lets get back to the thread

Any thoughts on Camerons "holiday" in Portugal?  A diplomatic excercise? ... or just a lovely holiday in a beautiful country?

[Redblossom]

Oops, seems MWT and Tubbs had heard something after all

Coming British causes bad feeling in the Judicial Police Jornal de Notícias (paper edition)
Courtesy of

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id232.html


Coming British causes bad feeling in the Judicial Police Jornal de Notícias (paper edition)

      

Attorney General's Office has given the OK to Scotland Yard to investigate

Marisa Rodrigues
Published 01 August 2013

IT IS CAUSING BAD FEELING within the Judicial Police (PJ) - the coming to Portugal of British detectives investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, in 2007, from the Algarve. The Attorney General's Office (PGR) has accepted the request for assistance, but the timetable for the Scotland Yard officers has not yet been scheduled. For now, the investigation continues to be archived, since 2008, because "there are no grounds to reopen it," said the PGR, to JN yesterday.

Once on Portuguese territory, the British police cannot carry out the measures they deem necessary. They are only allowed to observe what the Portuguese police do, at their request. And it is precisely this question that is leaving investigators angry. "They want to hear people who have already been heard at the inquiry stage and repeat other steps which were taken by us and were inconclusive. They are passing us a certificate of incompetence," complained an inspector who participated in the investigation, to JN. Another policeman recalls the "barriers" that were placed when the PJ requested assistance in the initial investigation. "The letter of request to conduct investigations in England had to be changed several times by imposition of the British authorities. We collaborate, but the opposite is not always there," he says. The public prosecutor will now have to assign the execution of the inquiries to a criminal police body. Most likely it's the PJ but, from what JN has found, nothing has yet been reported to the National Office [of the PJ].

PORTUGUESE PAY

38 "persons of interest"

Have been identified by Scotland Yard after reviewing the Portuguese case files, by more than 30 specialized English policemen at a cost of more than five million euros.

Expensive investigation

All inquiries requested by the British authorities to the national authorities will be paid for with Portuguese taxpayers' money. The Maddie case is the most expensive ever in Portugal.

"Base in Portugal"

According to the British press, the letter with the formal request for cooperation was signed by the Home Secretary, Theresa May, who spoke of "setting up a base" in Portugal.


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This just smacks of no real new evidence found and just going over old ground

Amazing

And it is understandable that that some might think well, the Uk authorities obstructed the investigation in 2007 in various ways, now they want assistance? From the people they fobbed off?

Makes some of what JB said here seem spot on

http://aninspectorcallsyou.blogspot.co.uk/2013/07/two-way-communication.html

lets  hope they do work together to put an end to this farce once and for all

[Carana]

Who exactly are these unnamed investigators?

[Redblossom]

Who exactly are these unnamed investigators?

Why are you asking any of us? No one here knows, do they? Bit  like asking who is this * family friend or source close to the investigation* on hundreds of uk articles

[Carana]

Why are you asking any of us? No one here knows, do they? Bit  like asking who is this * family friend or source close to the investigation* on hundreds of uk articles

I'm just asking a question, Red.

Are these Investigators" part of the current team working with the Met? Or are they those who were taken off the case - if so, they may have a wounded pride an axe to grind that is not related to the present officers involved in this effort of mutual assistance.

[Redblossom]

I'm just asking a question, Red.

Are these Investigators" part of the current team working with the Met? Or are they those who were taken off the case - if so, they may have a wounded pride an axe to grind that is not related to the present officers involved in this effort of mutual assistance.

I think the clue liea in the sentence, it has left investigators angry