Is the buried at sea theory a serious possibility?

[Chinagirl]

Anne: .....Madeleine has probably gone from that planet 6 years ago

Angelo: .....she is most probably dead.

"Probably" does not mean definitely.  Yet the two aforementioned posters, together with many other [ censored word] would deny the possibility that Madeleine could still be alive, and therefore decry the parents' efforts to find her.

Decent people find such an attitude to be despicable.
 

[AnneGuedes]

Anne: .....Madeleine has probably gone from that planet 6 years ago

Angelo: .....she is most probably dead.

"Probably" does not mean definitely.  Yet the two aforementioned posters, together with many other [ censored word] would deny the possibility that Madeleine could still be alive, and therefore decry the parents' efforts to find her.

Decent people find such an attitude to be despicable.

You're dreaming, Chinagirl, saying Madeleine is probably dead doesn't kill her nor prevents people to hope she's per chance alive. You're the best illustration of this.

[Chinagirl]

Anne, b oth your post and Angelo's went on to decry efforts made to find Madeleine, or to keep her profile high in the public perception because she "probably" is dead.  This is the attitude that is despicable as probably does not mean definitely, and while ever her corpse is not found or there is no resolution to her disappearance, common humanity should decree the possibility of her still being alive, and therefore efforts made to find and recover her.

Just for the record, I am a pro who thinks it is likely that she was killed by someone subsequent to the abduction and her body disposed of at sea, which is why it hasn't and never will be found.  However, because there is as yet no proof, or even evidence that this is so, I am absolutely supportive of her parents' right to hope that she is still alive and findable, and consider it imperative that the police services of both the UK and Portugal do everything in their power to find the child, or at the very least, ascertain what happened to her.

[AnneGuedes]

Anne, b oth your post and Angelo's went on to decry efforts made to find Madeleine, or to keep her profile high in the public perception because she "probably" is dead.  This is the attitude that is despicable as probably does not mean definitely, and while ever her corpse is not found or there is no resolution to her disappearance, common humanity should decree the possibility of her still being alive, and therefore efforts made to find and recover her.

Just for the record, I am a pro who thinks it is likely that she was killed by someone subsequent to the abduction and her body disposed of at sea, which is why it hasn't and never will be found.  However, because there is as yet no proof, or even evidence that this is so, I am absolutely supportive of her parents' right to hope that she is still alive and findable, and consider it imperative that the police services of both the UK and Portugal do everything in their power to find the child, or at the very least, ascertain what happened to her.

I'm not decrying the high profile efforts, I just think they aren't productive : if Madeleine is alive, she's fine and if she's fine, one day she'll find out who she is. It sounds very fairy tale, but it can't be discarded I suppose.
The sea brings back bodies one day or another. Sometimes it takes years for a bone to appear in a fishing net. A French doctor went sailing in high sea with his family on a rented boat. The boat sank after some days. The doctor was thought to have killed his wife  and his 2 kids and to be living far away (quite a few sightings), because the ocean had brought remains of one child and then some time later of the other. But years after a bone of the father was found.
The priority is to know what happened to Madeleine. Actually I don't see how she can be searched if what happened to her is unknown.

[Angelo222]

Anne: .....Madeleine has probably gone from that planet 6 years ago

Angelo: .....she is most probably dead.

"Probably" does not mean definitely.  Yet the two aforementioned posters, together with many other [ censored word] would deny the possibility that Madeleine could still be alive, and therefore decry the parents' efforts to find her.

Decent people find such an attitude to be despicable.

Absolutely not the case.  There is no more evidence available that she is alive than there is that she is dead.  In the vast majority of cases where a child is abducted and is not found within a short period of time the long term prognosis is not good.  There will always be hope and nobody will blame you for expressing it but one has to be realistic as Anne and myself have suggested.

Your assertion that you are somehow decent by suggesting she is still alive whereas those who suggest she is probably dead are not decent renders your argument without basis and purely semantic. 

Lets hope that SY do not go down that particular road.

[Angelo222]

Just for the record, I am a pro who thinks it is likely that she was killed by someone subsequent to the abduction and her body disposed of at sea, which is why it hasn't and never will be found.  However, because there is as yet no proof, or even evidence that this is so, I am absolutely supportive of her parents' right to hope that she is still alive and findable, and consider it imperative that the police services of both the UK and Portugal do everything in their power to find the child, or at the very least, ascertain what happened to her.

I agree completely with the first part of your post as this is the most likely scenario.  Where we disagree is the who and why.

[Chinagirl]

I'm not decrying the high profile efforts, I just think they aren't productive : if Madeleine is alive, she's fine and if she's fine, one day she'll find out who she is. It sounds very fairy tale, but it can't be discarded I suppose.
The sea brings back bodies one day or another. Sometimes it takes years for a bone to appear in a fishing net. A French doctor went sailing in high sea with his family on a rented boat. The boat sank after some days. The doctor was thought to have killed his wife  and his 2 kids and to be living far away (quite a few sightings), because the ocean had brought remains of one child and then some time later of the other. But years after a bone of the father was found.
The priority is to know what happened to Madeleine. Actually I don't see how she can be searched if what happened to her is unknown.

It doesn't necessarily follow that "if [she] is alive, she's fine and if she's fine, one day she'll find out who she is."  One can certainly hope that this is so, because the alternative (being alive and not fine), is too horrible to contemplate.  But whether she is "fine" or not, efforts still need to be made to find her and return her to her parents where she belongs.  This is the reason the McCanns make efforts to keep her profile high in the public conscience. 

So what if current high profile efforts so far have been unproductive?  And if none of the many possible sightings have achieved anything?  This is a common (and inexplicable) anti/sceptic criticism - that none of the sightings have turned out to be Madeleine, and no publicity has yet yielded any positive information about her whereabouts.  I simply cannot understand the peculiar reasoning here.  What does it matter if a million abortive sightings are made over the next x number of years - it only needs one to turn out to be Madeleine, and all the so-called "wasted" publicity effort will have been worth it.

The sea does not invariably "give up her dead," though often it does.  If the corpse was disposed of far out to sea outside the influence of tides and onshore currents, it is unlikely ever to be recovered, or it could wash up on the shores of a country that wouldn't recognise its significance.

[stephen25000]

Go on, then tell us how.  How did they manage to get rid of the remains and then go to dinner as if nothing had happened?

Who said the 'remains' as you put it were disposed of before dinner ?

You are very callous in saying that.

Meanwhile, there is a substance that covers approx. 70 % of this planet's surface.............................

[faithlilly]

Anne, b oth your post and Angelo's went on to decry efforts made to find Madeleine, or to keep her profile high in the public perception because she "probably" is dead.  This is the attitude that is despicable as probably does not mean definitely, and while ever her corpse is not found or there is no resolution to her disappearance, common humanity should decree the possibility of her still being alive, and therefore efforts made to find and recover her.

Just for the record, I am a pro who thinks it is likely that she was killed by someone subsequent to the abduction and her body disposed of at sea, which is why it hasn't and never will be found.  However, because there is as yet no proof, or even evidence that this is so, I am absolutely supportive of her parents' right to hope that she is still alive and findable, and consider it imperative that the police services of both the UK and Portugal do everything in their power to find the child, or at the very least, ascertain what happened to her.

If there is no evidence to support your theory, why do you think it's the most likely scenario ?

[Chinagirl]

That is not what I said. 

[faithlilly]

That is not what I said.

If you are replying to me, that is exactly what you said and I quote :

'However, because there is as yet no proof, or even evidence that this is so, I am absolutely supportive of her parents' right to hope that she is still alive and findable,'

[Chinagirl]

I have to wonder if English is your first language ....

[faithlilly]

I have to wonder if English is your first language ....

Just answer the question Chinagirl. Why do you think the mostly likely scenario is that Madeleine was killed and disposed of at sea if there, in your own words 'there is as yet no proof, or even evidence that this is so'  ?

[Chinagirl]

I am n ot obliged to answer your question when you are misquoting my original statement.

[faithlilly]

I am n ot obliged to answer your question when you are misquoting my original statement.

Then please point out where I am misquoting you ?