Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.

[Lace]

Another bland and meaningless statement.

'.....the McCanns have had loads of support from the locals,...'

You can provide evidence, for this 'loads of support' ?

Well,  didn't many people search for Madeleine?   Didn't may people give to the fund?    Have you forgotten that already?

The tides turned when they were made arguido's.

[stephen25000]

Well,  didn't many people search for Madeleine?   Didn't may people give to the fund?    Have you forgotten that already?

The tides turned when they were made arguido's.

Many people searched for Madeleine, unlike her parents.

Their's stopped after a brief stroll the following morning.

The parents would be investigated in this kind of case, as you know well.

[Mr Gray]

Well,  didn't many people search for Madeleine?   Didn't may people give to the fund?    Have you forgotten that already?

The tides turned when they were made arguido's.

And all the evidence that instigated the arguido statement was found to be worthless

[sadie]

The issue was not 'were other posters defaced', because all the evidence points to other posters being defaced.  That is not in question.

The issue was 'was it intended to prevent communication?'  The defaced poster you have put here quite clearly has the contact details intact, so it is not an attempt to prevent communication.

It is intended to express the feelings of the defacer towards the McCann parents.

Whether you like that message or agree with the method of sending it is not the issue.  The reality is that by April 2009 at least some of the people of Luz had turned against the McCann parents.

I have no doubt that after all the propaganda put out , some people in Luz did turn against the Mccanns ... and the rest very wisely, but unfortunately for Madeleine, kept their heads down.

The poster is destroyed and a piece of paper flapping over the number.  The people of Luz not only had to lift this paper to read it all ... but would also be aware that a nasty element was about.  Better to keep their heads down.

[Mr Moderator]

I have no doubt that after all the propaganda put out , some people in Luz did turn against the Mccanns ... and the rest very wisely, but unfortunately for Madeleine, kept their heads down.

The poster is destroyed and a piece of paper flapping over the number.  The people of Luz not only had to lift this paper to read it all ... but would also be aware that a nasty element was about.  Better to keep their heads down.

The Luz community have had an interminable blight brought upon them so it is not surprising that a few frustrated souls chose a more unorthodox route to impart their displeasure.  However, the loss suffered by Luz was undoubtedly picked up as a benefit by other resorts in the Algarve.

What I believe the good people of Luz fear most is that one of their own is found culpable in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann because that alone would cast a very dark shadow over this small community.

[stephen25000]

The Luz community have had an interminable blight brought upon them so it is not surprising that a few frustrated souls chose a more unorthodox route to impart their displeasure.  However, the loss suffered by Luz was undoubtedly picked up as a benefit by other resorts in the Algarve.

What I believe the good people of Luz fear most is that one of their own is found culpable in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann because that alone would cast a very dark shadow over this small community.

.......................or of course, no one from that community of Portugal was involved.

[Robittybob1]

.......................or of course, no one from that community of Portugal was involved.

A bit early to say as yet.  Until the case is solved we just don't know.

[Brietta]

To be honest, I find this line of thought both offensive and unintelligent.

Those supporting it appear to think it was perfectly OK for the McCanns to alienate Luz.

Alienating Luz lowered the chances of finding out what happened to Madeleine.

Silvia Batista and husband Joao had both worked at the OC for around 20 years.  Both got made redundant.  So what do the McCannites think?  After their family life got wrecked, did Silvia think it was fine to get hauled to Faro by OG in Dec 14?  Did she enter that process neutral?  Did she give her all for Madeleine?

The issue I have with this thread is McCann supporters unthinkingly accepting everything the McCann parents did as good, when an audit trail reveals a litany of errors.

You are putting the blame for the effect of a worldwide recession on the McCanns ... that is hardly fair.

The McCanns neither hauled nor caused to be hauled either Silvia Batista and husband Joao or anyone else to Faro.
That would be the policing authorities investigating a missing child case.

Never having had the experience of having a child stolen from them it was all a learning curve for the McCanns.  That you and others may believe that they acted inappropriately is neither here nor there.  The problem you should perhaps be addressing is that it became incumbent on the victim's parents to carry out their own investigation because they could see at first hand that the initial Portuguese one was going nowhere towards finding Madeleine.  Which may very well have been because they weren't looking for her.
There was a theory to be adhered to ... and the McCanns could see that in operation.

The perplexing thing is the absolute resistance to any meaningful investigation into Madeleine's fate.  This was typified by vandalising reminder posters and the later 'work' carried out on walls and traffic signs.

You constantly criticise Scotland Yard.
Even the BBC and the Crimewatch programme come in for criticism ... yet you make excuses for the defacement of posters on the grounds that everyone knew the number anyway?

Scotland Yard and the BBC programme are trying to solve a crime against a little girl.  Those in Luz who have behaved in the manner they have ...  ... err, what exactly is it they are doing and what is their intent in doing it?

[ferryman]

The biggest threat to tourism in PdL is a child molester/child murderer on the loose.

[jassi]

The biggest threat to tourism in PdL is a child molester/child murderer on the loose.

Who would that be, then?

[stephen25000]

The biggest threat to tourism in PdL is a child molester/child murderer on the loose.

How do you know that ?

Pure speculation, and we know why.

[stephen25000]

Murat was Anglo Portuguese the scion of a very important Portuguese family.  The English bit was fine but the Portuguese side was able to afford a good lawyer to ensure he enjoyed the rights he was entitled to.

The McCanns were British ... Kate would have fitted the bill perfectly, but they too were in the position of being able to employ good lawyers.

Years later, Euclides Monteiro would have been fine.  Dead and an immigrant from Cape Verde.  He didn't look like any of the efits though.

Truly amazing that not a single native resident of Luz (Murat apart) who may have had the time, the opportunity, the motive and the 'expertise' to kidnap a child ever seems to have been looked at or questioned.

You say that because the only scenario you and your fellows want considered, is abduction.

[Alice Purjorick]

Murat was Anglo Portuguese the scion of a very important Portuguese family.  The English bit was fine but the Portuguese side was able to afford a good lawyer to ensure he enjoyed the rights he was entitled to.

The McCanns were British ... Kate would have fitted the bill perfectly, but they too were in the position of being able to employ good lawyers.

Years later, Euclides Monteiro would have been fine.  Dead and an immigrant from Cape Verde.  He didn't look like any of the efits though.

Truly amazing that not a single native resident of Luz (Murat apart) who may have had the time, the opportunity, the motive and the 'expertise' to kidnap a child ever seems to have been looked at or questioned.

That's random for you. Maybe no one from Luz was involved.

[Mr Gray]

To be honest, I find this line of thought both offensive and unintelligent.

Those supporting it appear to think it was perfectly OK for the McCanns to alienate Luz.

Alienating Luz lowered the chances of finding out what happened to Madeleine.

Silvia Batista and husband Joao had both worked at the OC for around 20 years.  Both got made redundant.  So what do the McCannites think?  After their family life got wrecked, did Silvia think it was fine to get hauled to Faro by OG in Dec 14?  Did she enter that process neutral?  Did she gives her all for Madeleine?
S
The issue I have with this thread is McCann supporters unthinkingly accepting everything the McCann parents did as good, when an audit trail reveals a litany of errors.

I find your post unintelligent
We have a missing child
The investigation into her disappearance takes precedence
The ill feeling towards the mccanns started very early on
As soon as they were made arguidos
You need to read up on this

[G-Unit]

I find your post unintelligent
We have a missing child
The investigation into her disappearance takes precedence
The ill feeling towards the mccanns started very early on
As soon as they were made arguidos
You need to read up on this

I find your post arrogant. 'We' don't have a missing child, the McCanns do. The investigation into her disappearance is the job of the Portuguese authorities. It always was and it remains so.

The McCanns chose to carry out their own investigation almost from the beginning, but their efforts have precedence only in their minds, no-one else's. Their belief that the everyone in the world should put the investigation into their daughter's disappearance before their own concerns is understandable, but not realistic.