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Offline jassi

Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #240 on: November 08, 2016, 07:16:02 PM »
It's a good marketing ploy.
They could even sell high quality wrist bands and a 'Desperately seeking Madeleine' lapel badge to every punter as part of the tour.  8)--))
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #241 on: November 08, 2016, 07:24:16 PM »
It's a good marketing ploy.
They could even sell high quality wrist bands and a 'Desperately seeking Madeleine' lapel badge to every punter as part of the tour.  8)--))

Dancing to the music of  Boris Pickett and The Crypt Kicker Five?
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Alfie

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Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #242 on: November 08, 2016, 07:25:25 PM »
It's a good marketing ploy.
They could even sell high quality wrist bands and a 'Desperately seeking Madeleine' lapel badge to every punter as part of the tour.  8)--))
But the poor, beleaguered residents of PdL wouldn't like it.  8)><(
Come to think of it, is advertising PdL as "Maddieville" on a blog and offering tours of all the Maddie hotspots really something the poor, beleaguered residents of PdL would be particularly pleased about?

Offline jassi

Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #243 on: November 08, 2016, 07:29:17 PM »
Plenty of opportunities for B&B and Tapas-style  restaurants - should keep the locals happy.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Alfie

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Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #244 on: November 08, 2016, 07:33:17 PM »
Plenty of opportunities for B&B and Tapas-style  restaurants - should keep the locals happy.
Perhaps you and SIL should join forces to exploit all these marketing opportunities.  together you could turn around the fortunes of poor beleaguered PdL, treated so cruelly by those unintelligent McCanns and the everso dumb Metropolitan Police.

Offline jassi

Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #245 on: November 08, 2016, 07:37:52 PM »
Sadly, I don't travel well, so it's unlikely that I would ever go there.
Regretfully I think I'll need to pass this golden egg  opportunity by, and leave it to those who travel regularly to the place.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline mercury

Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #246 on: November 08, 2016, 09:49:54 PM »
I have sympathy for those who were no longer employed by MW but it pales into insignificance compared to the loss of a child....can you really not see something so obvious
Thats basically saying that people losng their jobs is justified by the possiblity of some strangers  sprog  havingbeen alledgedly abducted from there and in the circumstances where said sprog was left all on their own might be found

really?
would you be happy to sacrifice your job for the possiblity that years later posters MIGHT still find some strangers child, give over

No wonder mark warner left and claimed on their insurance

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #247 on: November 08, 2016, 09:50:23 PM »
I am sorry if you consider the placing of Madeleine posters in public places in Luz and the additional questioning & investigations carried out by SY/PJ as dumb. I can't honestly see why you are spending so much time & effort researching & blogging about the case if you believe those who are trying to act in Madeleine's best interests are, in fact, dumb.
 I have every sympathy with innocent people who have inadvertently been caught up in this drawn-out case. However, had it been THEIR child who had gone missing in similar circumstances, I'm sure they would have been the first to expect continued co-operation from the local residents for as long as it took to reach a conclusion. Maybe if the PJ had been more adept the matter could have been concluded well before a job loss situation was reached but, like Soham & Dunblane, the village will always now be synonymous with Madeleine McCann.

Would you like to know in whose computer records I discovered searches for swinging in the Algarve?
Along the beach, many of the canning plants were closed and replaced by windsurfing and diving schools, as well as discos, restaurants and shops tailored to the needs of the seasonal visitor.[5] The once prominent casino closed, and was replaced by a local primary school, before becoming the seat of the parish government and health centre.

Has anyone EVER visited Luz?

'Many of the canning plants'?  I can take you to one café  (Fabrica) which was a 'canning plant'.  If you can take me to more, please do, because I am interested in the history of Luz from the 70s and 80s.  Nothing to do with Madeleine.  Just old age nostalgia.

Windsurfing and diving schools?  Let me see.  There is a windsurfing school out towards Burgau.  And there are two banana boat type amusement centres which operate from the local beach.  I cannot find you a diving centre in Luz.

Discos?  In 2007 there was precisely one, under the Habana.  Unless you include Carlos Bar under O Poço, which is stretching it a lot for an Elvis impersonator.

The once prominent casino closed, and was replaced by a local primary school, before becoming the seat of the parish government and health centre  Casino? Certainly not in Madeleine's day.  The primary school is the location of the Smithman sighting.  It has absolutely nothing to do with the parish government in Vinte Cinco de Abril.  And what the f is the local health centre?  The Luz choice is Dr Otto at the top of Primeiro de Maio or LuzDoc (by Martin Smith).  The health centre is in Lagos.

If you get your info from Wiki and don't cross-check it, the quality of your info is as per Wiki.

Would you like to know in whose computer records I discovered searches for swinging in the Algarve?
  The short answer is yes.  After perusing Textusa's theorem about swingers, it took me 15 or 20m to discover a historical record for swinging in the Algarve in 2007, just a few miles north of Luz.  AFAIK, it has nothing to do with anyone in the Tapas 9.  Does it have anything to do with the citizens of Luz?  That I do not know.
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Offline misty

Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #248 on: November 08, 2016, 10:44:51 PM »
Along the beach, many of the canning plants were closed and replaced by windsurfing and diving schools, as well as discos, restaurants and shops tailored to the needs of the seasonal visitor.[5] The once prominent casino closed, and was replaced by a local primary school, before becoming the seat of the parish government and health centre.

Has anyone EVER visited Luz?

'Many of the canning plants'?  I can take you to one café  (Fabrica) which was a 'canning plant'.  If you can take me to more, please do, because I am interested in the history of Luz from the 70s and 80s.  Nothing to do with Madeleine.  Just old age nostalgia.

Windsurfing and diving schools?  Let me see.  There is a windsurfing school out towards Burgau.  And there are two banana boat type amusement centres which operate from the local beach.  I cannot find you a diving centre in Luz.

Discos?  In 2007 there was precisely one, under the Habana.  Unless you include Carlos Bar under O Poço, which is stretching it a lot for an Elvis impersonator.

The once prominent casino closed, and was replaced by a local primary school, before becoming the seat of the parish government and health centre  Casino? Certainly not in Madeleine's day.  The primary school is the location of the Smithman sighting.  It has absolutely nothing to do with the parish government in Vinte Cinco de Abril.  And what the f is the local health centre?  The Luz choice is Dr Otto at the top of Primeiro de Maio or LuzDoc (by Martin Smith).  The health centre is in Lagos.

If you get your info from Wiki and don't cross-check it, the quality of your info is as per Wiki.

Would you like to know in whose computer records I discovered searches for swinging in the Algarve?
  The short answer is yes.  After perusing Textusa's theorem about swingers, it took me 15 or 20m to discover a historical record for swinging in the Algarve in 2007, just a few miles north of Luz.  AFAIK, it has nothing to do with anyone in the Tapas 9.  Does it have anything to do with the citizens of Luz?  That I do not know.

If Wiki is incorrect & you are interested in the history of Praia da Luz, then perhaps you should contact Len Port or read his books. I certainly don't know the full history of the town I've lived in for 30 years & glean much information from the memories of elderly neighbours.
If you truly don't know the answer to my last question then you haven't gone through the available files with a fine toothcomb. Perhaps if you did it may alter your theory.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #249 on: November 09, 2016, 04:48:47 PM »
Should it happen to me the loss of my job would be at around 10 in my life whereas someone else I didn't know losing their child would scarcely figure above 1. That's the way it is. Anyone who professes differently is most probably trapping off for effect.

So you loss of job would be considerably more important than a lost possibly abused and murdered child
You obviously think far more about your own problems than those of others
So if you had lost a child would you be not at all concerned for those who had lost a job
You wouldn't
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #250 on: November 09, 2016, 05:33:11 PM »
So you loss of job would be considerably more important than a lost possibly abused and murdered child
You obviously think far more about your own problems than those of others
So if you had lost a child would you be [NOT] at all concerned for those who had lost a job.
You wouldn't
Seems logical to me. if the word NOT is included.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #251 on: November 09, 2016, 08:09:40 PM »
So you loss of job would be considerably more important than a lost possibly abused and murdered child
You obviously think far more about your own problems than those of others
So if you had lost a child would you be at all concerned for those who had lost a job
You wouldn't

Too bloody right sport.
That about covers it I think.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #252 on: November 14, 2016, 07:57:08 AM »
The attitude seems to be that only one family matter in all of this. Lost your job? Tough, but THEY have lost a child. Had doubts cast on your reputation by being suspected of abduction or child trafficking? Tough, but THEY have lost a child.

It's an attitude that has prevailed throughout and is used to justify anything. The problem with that is that no-one has been able to provide any evidence that there's a living child out there to be found.

Showering Luz with leaflets and posters two years after the event was never going to produce new information. Anyone who knew anything would have come forward at the time. All it did was reopen old wounds.
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Offline Benice

Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #253 on: November 14, 2016, 09:25:29 AM »
The attitude seems to be that only one family matter in all of this. Lost your job? Tough, but THEY have lost a child. Had doubts cast on your reputation by being suspected of abduction or child trafficking? Tough, but THEY have lost a child.

It's an attitude that has prevailed throughout and is used to justify anything. The problem with that is that no-one has been able to provide any evidence that there's a living child out there to be found.

Showering Luz with leaflets and posters two years after the event was never going to produce new information. Anyone who knew anything would have come forward at the time. All it did was reopen old wounds.

How could anyone know that no-one would come forward 2 years later without being able to see into the future? The recent activity regarding Ben Needham is as a result of someone coming forward years later.  Would that have happened if Ben's mother had not done her best to keep him in the public's mind over the last 25 years?

Families who put up posters to try to jog people's memories are following the experts advice.   I'm pretty sure that the only thing that matters to all of those families who do that - is finding their loved ones.    Only those totally devoid of empathy could even remotely translate that into a 'selfish' act IMO.

You appear to have completely changed your opinion on how people should react to publicly having doubt cast on their reputations.       IIRC you stated that if it happened to you  - then you and your friends/family would all laugh it off - because you and they knew the allegations being made were untrue -  and that would be all that mattered.

AIMO
 


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Offline John

Re: Bad feelings, redundancies and defaced posters.
« Reply #254 on: November 15, 2016, 03:42:41 AM »
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