Author Topic: Is the realease of police files a good thing?  (Read 12702 times)

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Offline gilet

Re: Is the realease of police files a good thing?
« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2013, 08:46:21 PM »
he said he had read parts of the files! why only parts? but also  had some informat in the PJ? And there was not a shred of evidence the parents were involved, he admitted in that c4 documentary he was only working on n abduction theory, well, hello!? What else  would a PI hired by parents work on LoooL

He was absolutely correct that there is not a shred of evidence the parents were involved.

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Re: Is the realease of police files a good thing?
« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2013, 08:51:43 PM »
Not all.

Do you mean the one's the McCann's got re contacts of other cases? Which you said they didn't get!
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Re: Is the realease of police files a good thing?
« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2013, 08:53:49 PM »
He was absolutely correct that there is not a shred of evidence the parents were involved.

he  MAY be correct, but on what basis did he make that judgement? When he admitted he has only  read certain parts of the files
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bit like Redwood hey? half way through the files and alledgedly stating it WAS a stranger abduction

btw the  case was archived..for lack of evidence, lack of evidence NEVER means innocence of any party....let alone the fantastical CLEARED




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Re: Is the realease of police files a good thing?
« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2013, 08:57:19 PM »
Do you mean the one's the McCann's got re contacts of other cases? Which you said they didn't get!

No DCI! Anne was referring to the  fact that not all rogatory interviews were in the released police files!!!

many were missing...all the T7 are there though

Offline LagosBen

Re: Is the realease of police files a good thing?
« Reply #34 on: September 26, 2013, 09:02:34 PM »
The difference is not that our criminal system is in general secret but that only evidence which is actually pertinent to the case/trial is disclosed.

All evidence given in court is available in full transcript format after the trial. That is hardly secret courts. It is perfectly transparent.

I have asked is that available in Portugal but no-one seems to be able to answer. Perhaps you could.

I doubt it was the concept of transparency that worried them, they are used to that.

It was the fact that every tiny detail such as people's phone numbers were revealed. That is considered totally unacceptable here and I am personally shocked that the PT authorities do not understand how intimidating it could be to witnesses to know that the people they are giving evidence against can have their phone numbers and addresses and passport numbers etc. Actually I think it is scandalous and utterly stupid in this era of online fraud.

Do you really endorse the revealing of all that personal information about potentially vulnerable people and think it improves society?

I do wonder ....If (hopefully) the abductor is finally caught, how will the fact that all and sundry has had access to the Case Files affect any future prosecution?

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Re: Is the realease of police files a good thing?
« Reply #35 on: September 26, 2013, 09:07:30 PM »
I do wonder ....If (hopefully) the abductor is finally caught, how will the fact that all and sundry has had access to the Case Files affect any future prosecution?

Explain how then

Offline LagosBen

Re: Is the realease of police files a good thing?
« Reply #36 on: September 26, 2013, 09:28:06 PM »
Explain how then

Well if I were the abductor, I would make sure that my Lawyer raised all the subsequent issues that it raises.

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Re: Is the realease of police files a good thing?
« Reply #37 on: September 26, 2013, 09:33:58 PM »
No DCI! Anne was referring to the  fact that not all rogatory interviews were in the released police files!!!

many were missing...all the T7 are there though
The T7 rogs aren't in the files, only their existence is mentioned.
The two Paynes' written answers aren't in the files, only their existence is mentioned.

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Re: Is the realease of police files a good thing?
« Reply #38 on: September 26, 2013, 09:35:16 PM »
Well if I were the abductor, I would make sure that my Lawyer raised all the subsequent issues that it raises.

What issues does it raise for an abductor?

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Re: Is the realease of police files a good thing?
« Reply #39 on: September 26, 2013, 09:36:28 PM »
he  case was archived..for lack of evidence, lack of evidence NEVER means innocence of any party....let alone the fantastical CLEARED
Everybody will be satisfied if SY finds evidence, because this is the only possibility now for the case to be reopened.

Offline LagosBen

Re: Is the realease of police files a good thing?
« Reply #40 on: September 26, 2013, 09:36:46 PM »
What issues does it raise for an abductor?

Are you really this dense?

Offline LagosBen

Re: Is the realease of police files a good thing?
« Reply #41 on: September 26, 2013, 09:37:57 PM »
Everybody will be satisfied if SY finds evidence, because this is the only possibility now for the case to be reopened.

Yes that would be the second best outcome -Obviously finding Madeleine and who took her would be the best outcome.

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Re: Is the realease of police files a good thing?
« Reply #42 on: September 26, 2013, 10:00:55 PM »
Are you really this dense?

Answering  the question might be more fruitful

Offline LagosBen

Re: Is the realease of police files a good thing?
« Reply #43 on: September 26, 2013, 10:08:47 PM »
Answering  the question might be more fruitful

So sorry, I thought you might be able to think it through for yourself.

The Lawyer would be all over the fact that the Files had been viewed by many.
Witness Statements have been seen by many.
Accusations flying everywhere.
Policemen making Public statements and writing books.
TV appearance by many involved, the family, the police  etc. etc.
He'd possibly claim that the abductor could never receive a fair Trial.......starting to get it now are you?

Offline gilet

Re: Is the realease of police files a good thing?
« Reply #44 on: September 26, 2013, 10:52:02 PM »
he  MAY be correct, but on what basis did he make that judgement? When he admitted he has only  read certain parts of the files
 @)(++(*

bit like Redwood hey? half way through the files and alledgedly stating it WAS a stranger abduction

btw the  case was archived..for lack of evidence, lack of evidence NEVER means innocence of any party....let alone the fantastical CLEARED

The summary of the FILES is very clear that there is not a shred of evidence that the McCanns committed any crime.

Summaries and conclusions are there for a purpose.

The case was archived according to a poster here who has more knowledge of that Portuguese system than you for a reason other than which you proffer. I suggest you read your own anti colleague's posts to discover what the real reason was.

I will give you a clue. Cases in Portugal are by law time-limited.