Scotland Yard's new progress and BBC Crimewatch programme on 14 Oct 2013

[AnneGuedes]

Thankfully SY are now making up for these mistakes by the PT Police.

You better pray and even wake up during the night to pray !

[Lyall]

Yes, I agree, I believe they are desperately trying to make up for the time lost by the botched PJ investigation. Yes.

It was over two years before they petitioned for a review.

These facts cannot be erased, gilet. Though they may be forgotten by most.

[AnneGuedes]

Yes, I agree, I believe they are desperately trying to make up for the time lost by the botched PJ investigation. Yes.

If you read the news articles I have posted in this thread you will see that there are further details about the interviews and appeals. The first is on the 14th I believe when they will appeal on the BBC Crimewatch programme alongside DCI Redwood.

If only you could be true, Gilet ! Do try to comfort your convictions though.

[insider]

Another piece of front page sensationalism by the Great British Press intended only to fill the coffers of [Name removed] Desmond.  Shall we look at the reality shall we?

Back 6 years ago the vast majority of mobile phones used in Europe were analogue and most of the Sim cards used in them were never registered.  It was the age of the throw away Sim.   Scotland Yard might very well have received telephony records from the various service providers in the Luz area but without registration they are meaningless.  Looking for a needle in a haystack doesn't even go there.

Another reality my dears is that serious criminals and child abductors fall into that category have not been in the habit of registering their Sim cards for obvious reasons.  Thus we have a quandary for SY in the matching of the calls to the individuals who made and received them.  A neat trick which I fear they will never pull off for all the reasons previously stated.  And it was all going so well too.......   

[Luz]

Yes, I agree, I believe they are desperately trying to make up for the time lost by the botched PJ investigation. Yes.

If you read the news articles I have posted in this thread you will see that there are further details about the interviews and appeals. The first is on the 14th I believe when they will appeal on the BBC Crimewatch programme alongside DCI Redwood.

You mean they are desperately trying to look believable. If it took them six years to start moving their behinds to do anything, they chose indeed a very interesting period.

[gilet]

A TV show I believe. In fact the Murdoch portuguese friend, Expresso, is announcing it also. But before you call me names and insult me, check yourself in a mirror.

A number of TV programmes as a matter of fact in various parts of Europe where leads are currently being followed up.

I am simply glad that Expresso has picked up the story. It shows that there is still interest in finding out in Portugal, among some of the population at least, what happened to Madeleine McCann. Thankfully, not everyone even there is fixated on the un-evidenced speculation of Amaral.

I am sorry you did not show the same courtesy to readers here as I have shown. It is a shame you simply referred to the post in Expresso and could not even bring yourself to provide a link. Little courtesies like that go a very long way you know. I shall post the story shortly for the benefit of readers.

[faithlilly]

Indeed they did. By ignoring so many potential leads such as the one offered to the PJ by the Swiss via Interpol in early September 2007 the Portuguese authorities definitely compromised themselves in this case much to the detriment of justice and of course to the poor little girl, Madeleine at the heart of the case.

Thankfully SY are now making up for these mistakes by the PT Police.

Are they ? Has Madeleine been found ?

[icabodcrane]

No I don't think there is much chance at all of that possibility as I know that the papers will be getting the TV schedules directly from the TV companies around this time for programming two weeks hence.

I don't think it had anything to do with Lisbon.

You may think cynically and conspiratorially all the time. I don't. I understand the rhythm of the media and think that is the simplest and most likely option.

OK  ...  let's run with that 

The Express  'happen'  upon this development because of TV  listings 

The minion on the paper who mundanely works on the TV schedules  spots the  'scoop'    ...  and rings the editor  (  who naturally takes the call from the minion  ) 

"You are onto something here"   late working editor tells wannabee Jimmy Olsen  ... "Put me through to my man at the Yard" 

Scotland Yard,  having been  scooped by the minion in TV listings,  tells the editor all  ....   even post Leveson,  the editor's man at the yard spills his guts about a very sensitive investigation that has cost the public about five million pounds 

The editor  ...  pleased  ...  runs his story 

But he is a generous editor, and decides that he will share  Jimmy TV listings Olsen's scoop with  otherl  newspapers  ...  so they can all break the news together


Is that how you think it worked  ? 

[gilet]

Google Translation

Original here

http://expresso.sapo.pt/judiciaria-volta-a-apoiar-britanicos-no-caso-maddie=f833825

Judicial back to British support in Maddie case

The British authorities sent a letter rogatory to the Portuguese authorities on the Maddie case. The British have 37 detectives working and 38 suspects.

Hugo Franco

12:01 Friday, October 4, 2013 Last updated 48 minutes ago

Lusa Maddie's father, Gerry McCann being carried off the court in Lisbon last week.

 "The British authorities forwarded a letter rogatory to the Portuguese on the Maddie case. Portuguese And the MP referred it to the Judiciary Police for their fulfillment in the usual terms." Is this the only comment from the deputy national director of the PJ, Pedro do Carmo, the news that the Judiciary has formed a new team to work on the lines of research identified by British police about the disappearance of British child Madeleine McCann, as advances Lusa.

According to officials of Scotland Yard, interviewed by Lusa, a group of six officers of the delegation of Faro was formed to assist the British unit responsible for "Operation Grange" Metropolitan Police, which is reviewing all clues related to the case after the intervention of the British Prime Minister, David Cameron.
Portugal is one of 31 countries whose authorities were sent a letter of request with a request for assistance concerning elements that British police want to see clear, related persons and telephone data.
38 suspects and 37 inspectors working on the case

Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood, responsible for the team of about 37 people working on this case, said that the British police are trying to find the owners of mobile phones identified as being in the area and height of the disappearance.

This database related to mobile phones, he said, "had already been observed, but not to the level of detail" that are now doing. In June, British police announced the existence of "38 people of interest" they want to question, including several Portuguese. "These are people who were in a location radius disappearance and who there is reason to be suspicious. It takes a little more than circumstantial issues," said Redwood.
At 12 British initially identified yet joined three more, which are already being investigated, but the inspector believes that "possibly be eliminated" in the list soon. A Scotland Yard, working on the case a year ago, is confident of having found "new information" relevant, based on 40,000 documents and clues collected by police Portugal, UK and eight different companies private detective.

New broadcast appeal on October 14

Scotland Yard will launch a new broadcast appeal, first in BBC, October 14, and the following days at stations in Germany and the Netherlands, and is in talks to do well in Ireland.

Remember that Madeleine McCann disappeared a few days before making four years, May 3, 2007, the room where she was sleeping with her two twin brothers, younger, in an apartment of a tourist resort in Praia da Luz, Algarve while the parents dined with a group of friends at a nearby restaurant. After one of the most expensive investigations carried out by the Portuguese authorities, one year later, July 21, 2008, the prosecutor decided to close the case of the disappearance of Maddie, for lack of evidence, and withdraw the status of the accused girl's parents English, who disappeared in May 2007.

Three years after Portugal shelve the inquiry, the British launched an investigation into the case. And now in July this year, the London Metropolitan Police, known as Scotland Yard, has advanced to a new stage in the criminal investigation that has to run on Madeleine McCann. Heard at the time by Express, a source of PJ assured that until now had not been found by the British evidence to justify reopening the criminal investigation. "At least in the light of the Portuguese law, there is no evidence," said the same official.

[gilet]

You better pray and even wake up during the night to pray !

No need. I don't have to pray for UK police to do a good job. If you think you have to pray for PT police to do such a job then I simply pity you.

[Luz]

Another piece of front page sensationalism by the Great British Press intended only to fill the coffers of [Name removed] Desmond.  Shall we look at the reality shall we?

Back 6 years ago the vast majority of mobile phones used in Europe were analogue and most of the Sim cards used in them were never registered.  It was the age of the throw away Sim.   Scotland Yard might very well have received telephony records from the various service providers in the Luz area but without registration they are meaningless.  Looking for a needle in a haystack doesn't even go there.

Another reality my dears is that serious criminals and child abductors fall into that category have not been in the habit of registering their Sim cards for obvious reasons.  Thus we have a quandary for SY in the matching of the calls to the individuals who made and received them.  A neat trick which I fear they will never pull off for all the reasons previously stated.  And it was all going so well too.......   

Absolutely.

And any record that existed in portuguese mobile companies, were destroyed because the judge ordered that they would be a breach of intimacy.

[gilet]

Cite please ?

I refer you to his many interviews where he has stated this.

[gilet]

It was over two years before they petitioned for a review.

These facts cannot be erased, gilet. Though they may be forgotten by most.

Was it really two years? Cite!

[AnneGuedes]

Not at all. Your presumption of my ignorance is mistaken.

But that does not affect the fact that I believe your posting of the latin 'panem et circenses' instead of the more normal 'bread and circuses' and your allusions to Dharma were both utterly pretentious and a pretence at greater intelligence than other posters here. Unfortunately it just looks rather pathetic when you try to sound so clever while avoiding the simple ways of expressing the same ideas.

Come on, Gilet, latin expressions are common knowledge, it's yokel to translate them in modern language !
Now about dharma I'm not sure your knowledge is acute. In fact this is a very complex notion and it has no straight translation. That's why I illustrated it with the order Krisna gave to Arjuna before the battle against the Kauravās, his uncles and cousins.

[Luz]

A number of TV programmes as a matter of fact in various parts of Europe where leads are currently being followed up.

I am simply glad that Expresso has picked up the story. It shows that there is still interest in finding out in Portugal, among some of the population at least, what happened to Madeleine McCann. Thankfully, not everyone even there is fixated on the un-evidenced speculation of Amaral.

I am sorry you did not show the same courtesy to readers here as I have shown. It is a shame you simply referred to the post in Expresso and could not even bring yourself to provide a link. Little courtesies like that go a very long way you know. I shall post the story shortly for the benefit of readers.

Courtesy to you?!!!
Give me a break!