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Offline Lace

Re: Scotland Yard's new progress and BBC Crimewatch programme on 14 Oct 2013
« Reply #435 on: October 06, 2013, 08:04:14 AM »
Stop your mocking Stephen.  It really sickens me to see someone so full of glee that a crime watch appeal for a missing child will not be shown in the country where she disappeared.

How can you be so happy about this?    Don't you want the case to be solved?


stephen25000

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Re: Scotland Yard's new progress and BBC Crimewatch programme on 14 Oct 2013
« Reply #436 on: October 06, 2013, 08:08:08 AM »
Stop your mocking Stephen.  It really sickens me to see someone so full of glee that a crime watch appeal for a missing child will not be shown in the country where she disappeared.

How can you be so happy about this?    Don't you want the case to be solved?

Mocking, NO.

I want the truth to come out.

Not hysteria and propaganda.

As to the Portuguese people, how can you not get, that they have had enough of the abuse and hysteria they have received in the UK press and people like you.

Offline Lace

Re: Scotland Yard's new progress and BBC Crimewatch programme on 14 Oct 2013
« Reply #437 on: October 06, 2013, 08:12:34 AM »
Mocking, NO.

I want the truth to come out.

Not hysteria and propaganda.

As to the Portuguese people, how can you not get, that they have had enough of the abuse and hysteria they have received in the UK press and people like you.

It looks as though you want the truth to come out Stephen,  you are full of joy at the prospect of the Portuguese people not seeing the Crime watch appeal.   Full of smiley faces.

So now you speak for all the Portuguese people.

You are so important aren't you,    it's all hysteria and propaganda,   how do you know that?

What are you talking about 'people like me'    what you mean discussing the McCann case on a forum with you?


stephen25000

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Re: Scotland Yard's new progress and BBC Crimewatch programme on 14 Oct 2013
« Reply #438 on: October 06, 2013, 08:14:53 AM »
Yet another lie in the Express.

k and g 'banned' the reconstruction in Portugal.

What a load of cobblers.

Cariad

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Re: Scotland Yard's new progress and BBC Crimewatch programme on 14 Oct 2013
« Reply #439 on: October 06, 2013, 09:45:25 AM »
No,  I don't know if Madeleine is in the hands of  a Paedophile gang.   It is only a possibility.

You stick to your scenario,  it's is wrong as SY has said the McCann's are in no way involved in the disappearance of Madeleine.

There have been quite a few posts about SY saying that the Mccanns are not suspects, I'm quoting yours Lace cause it's the first I came across this morning.

TrueSardine posted a link to an interview with Dr Amaral on another thread yesterday and this line caught my eye


Once again, we were inhibited. We thought about asking the parents to test their hair, in order to understand whether there were sedatives, but as soon as it was found out, it would be said that we were suspecting the parents, and it was being avoided at all costs that it became public that those suspicions existed.

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/07/interview-with-gonalo-amaral-cadaver.html

My bold by the way. I'm just wondering whether SY could feel the same way?

With thanks to truesardine for finding the link.

Offline Victoria

Re: Scotland Yard's new progress and BBC Crimewatch programme on 14 Oct 2013
« Reply #440 on: October 06, 2013, 10:00:57 AM »
There have been quite a few posts about SY saying that the Mccanns are not suspects, I'm quoting yours Lace cause it's the first I came across this morning.

TrueSardine posted a link to an interview with Dr Amaral on another thread yesterday and this line caught my eye


Once again, we were inhibited. We thought about asking the parents to test their hair, in order to understand whether there were sedatives, but as soon as it was found out, it would be said that we were suspecting the parents, and it was being avoided at all costs that it became public that those suspicions existed.

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/07/interview-with-gonalo-amaral-cadaver.html

My bold by the way. I'm just wondering whether SY could feel the same way?

With thanks to truesardine for finding the link.

I'd take anything Amaral says with a pinch of salt.

By the by, I always struggled with his obsession with sedation - if he thought the kids were drugged to keep them asleep, why did he also think Maddie may have been climbing around the sofa?

Benita

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Re: Scotland Yard's new progress and BBC Crimewatch programme on 14 Oct 2013
« Reply #441 on: October 06, 2013, 10:19:29 AM »
Yet another lie in the Express.

k and g 'banned' the reconstruction in Portugal.

What a load of cobblers.


and you know its cobblers because ??  >@@(*&)

Offline Montclair

Re: Scotland Yard's new progress and BBC Crimewatch programme on 14 Oct 2013
« Reply #442 on: October 06, 2013, 10:57:11 AM »
I'd take anything Amaral says with a pinch of salt.

By the by, I always struggled with his obsession with sedation - if he thought the kids were drugged to keep them asleep, why did he also think Maddie may have been climbing around the sofa?

I take anything the McCanns say with a mountain of salt, they have changed their stories so often you never know what is true and what is a lie.

Why didn't the twins wake up during all of the hullabaloo after Madeleine disappeared? Why did the McCanns not allow the twins to be questioned? Their excuse was that their language skills were not very good. Looks like they were not that desperate to find out what happened that night. Of course, Madeleine could have been sedated and fell off the sofa because she was groggy.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Scotland Yard's new progress and BBC Crimewatch programme on 14 Oct 2013
« Reply #443 on: October 06, 2013, 11:00:17 AM »
I take anything the McCanns say with a mountain of salt, they have changed their stories so often you never know what is true and what is a lie.

Why didn't the twins wake up during all of the hullabaloo after Madeleine disappeared? Why did the McCanns not allow the twins to be questioned? Their excuse was that their language skills were not very good. Looks like they were not that desperate to find out what happened that night. Of course, Madeleine could have been sedated and fell off the sofa because she was groggy.
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Offline jassi

Re: Scotland Yard's new progress and BBC Crimewatch programme on 14 Oct 2013
« Reply #444 on: October 06, 2013, 11:03:05 AM »
I take anything the McCanns say with a mountain of salt, they have changed their stories so often you never know what is true and what is a lie.

Why didn't the twins wake up during all of the hullabaloo after Madeleine disappeared? Why did the McCanns not allow the twins to be questioned? Their excuse was that their language skills were not very good. Looks like they were not that desperate to find out what happened that night. Of course, Madeleine could have been sedated and fell off the sofa because she was groggy.

The problem I have with this sort of senario is that they were both doctors and could easily have weathered any fall-out over a tragic accident caused by having medicated the children themselves, if this had been the case.
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
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Offline Benice

Re: Scotland Yard's new progress and BBC Crimewatch programme on 14 Oct 2013
« Reply #445 on: October 06, 2013, 11:06:37 AM »
There have been quite a few posts about SY saying that the Mccanns are not suspects, I'm quoting yours Lace cause it's the first I came across this morning.

TrueSardine posted a link to an interview with Dr Amaral on another thread yesterday and this line caught my eye


Once again, we were inhibited. We thought about asking the parents to test their hair, in order to understand whether there were sedatives, but as soon as it was found out, it would be said that we were suspecting the parents, and it was being avoided at all costs that it became public that those suspicions existed.

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/07/interview-with-gonalo-amaral-cadaver.html

My bold by the way. I'm just wondering whether SY could feel the same way?

With thanks to truesardine for finding the link.

Amaral's claim doesn't tally with the statements of the FL Officers who record the McCanns asking them to make enquiries to the PJ about the possibililty of sedation.     So the McCanns were certainly not 'inhibiting' Amaral - quite the opposite - they were trying to pursue the matter.     

I note Amaral says ''It would be said...'   Not ...''It was said.  He is making his own assumptions.

How could testing for drugs be detrimental to the parents  - when it was highly likely that an abductor may have used them? 

IMO it's Amaral trying to excuse the fact that he ignored the parents enquiries/questions to him made via the FLOs, on this subject.     

IMO the first thing SY would have done at the beginning of the review would be to put the parents and their friends under the microscope in order to rule them in or out before even attempting to look elsewhere.     And I have no doubt that same advice that would have been given to the PJ from UK police - if advice had been requested.   It's simply normal practice.


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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Scotland Yard's new progress and BBC Crimewatch programme on 14 Oct 2013
« Reply #446 on: October 06, 2013, 11:07:29 AM »
Yet another lie in the Express.

k and g 'banned' the reconstruction in Portugal.

What a load of cobblers.

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Offline Luz

Re: Scotland Yard's new progress and BBC Crimewatch programme on 14 Oct 2013
« Reply #447 on: October 06, 2013, 11:08:19 AM »




Gerry and Kate McCann will assist in a Crimewatch Reconstruction of the case on October 14th.


Probably another Panorama re-do: "poor us" mistreated parents.
I don't believe the Metropolitan Police is behind that sort of entertainment show - if they are then the little respect I still fight to have for them is down the gutter.

Offline Luz

Re: Scotland Yard's new progress and BBC Crimewatch programme on 14 Oct 2013
« Reply #448 on: October 06, 2013, 11:17:49 AM »
Last 4th of October, both the PJ National Director and the Attorney General gave an interview in SIC TV channel, where they stated that 3/4 SY agents had been to the Algarve for a couple of meetings with the Faro PJ Director. So far only a few diligences required by the UK rogatory  were carried on, and all involved portuguese people and none implied questioning those persons.
The phone analysis the SY is carrying on are based on the initial PJ logs which were done just weeks/months after the event - at that time it was not possible to take much from those phone information for the reasons recently invoked by the British themselves, there is no way to tag PAYG phones to their owners. What is different now, more than 5 years later????
The Press is just publishing bullocks in order to sell.

P.S. Seven or six years ago, when I traveled to spend a few days in another country, the first thing I would do when arriving at the airport was to buy a SIM card that I could dispose of as soon as I went home. I bet that was what most people did.
Trying to find out who were the people that stayed in PDL by their cell phones is a joke.
« Last Edit: October 06, 2013, 11:25:19 AM by Luz »

Offline jassi

Re: Scotland Yard's new progress and BBC Crimewatch programme on 14 Oct 2013
« Reply #449 on: October 06, 2013, 11:31:44 AM »
Last 4th of October, both the PJ National Director and the Attorney General gave an interview in SIC TV channel, where they stated that 3/4 SY agents had been to the Algarve for a couple of meetings with the Faro PJ Director. So far only a few diligences required by the UK rogatory  were carried on, and all involved portuguese people and none implied questioning those persons.
The phone analysis the SY is carrying on are based on the initial PJ logs which were done just weeks/months after the event - at that time it was not possible to take much from those phone information for the reasons recently invoked by the British themselves, there is no way to tag PAYG phones to their owners. What is different now, more than 5 years later????
The Press is just publishing bullocks in order to sell.

P.S. Seven or six years ago, when I traveled to spend a few days in another country, the first thing I would do when arriving at the airport was to buy a SIM card that I could dispose of as soon as I went home. I bet that was what most people did.
Trying to find out who were the people that stayed in PDL by their cell phones is a joke.

While I largely agree with you, I wonder if it is possible to eliminate the phones ( not people) that were no where near the holiday complex at the time? I'm not sure how reliable triangulation would be.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future