Author Topic: Is the release of information by SY related to the libel trial in Lisbon?  (Read 15575 times)

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Offline Victoria

Re: Is the release of information by SY related to the libel trial in Lisbon?
« Reply #45 on: October 10, 2013, 07:53:10 PM »
I don't want to insult your intelligence.
Scotland Yard is a flailed agency that in the last years has had more failures than success. They just hold to a millionaire budget to do nothing.

BBC is the joke of the European, or the world national TV broadcasting companies. They have made so many errors, that this one is just another one.

The usual jingoistic nonsense from you. Scotland Yard has more failure than successes? Presumably you have statistics to back this up? And the BBC is the joke of the broadcasting world? Compared to what? ITV? Channel 4? Pravda? Fox? The Onion? Al Jazeera? What are you basing this on? It's simply bigoted nonsense, Luz, and it won't do. It just won't do.

Redblossom

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Re: Is the release of information by SY related to the libel trial in Lisbon?
« Reply #46 on: October 10, 2013, 07:56:31 PM »
You might like to consider the possibility that someone much higher up is doing the manipulation of both organisations.

Yup

Bernard Hogan howe police commissioner stated something like we will have to decide what the outcome IS......and Redwood hmself has said he HOPES for SOME KIND of resolutionbut that that doesnt mean solving the case....
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Offline kmc

Re: Is the release of information by SY related to the libel trial in Lisbon?
« Reply #47 on: October 10, 2013, 08:00:13 PM »
I just bet that Crimewatch will be the biggest fiasco of Beeb.
If I had any hope that it would make a difference I would support it with all my heart, but by the way it has been announced I suspect it is a sort of long Nancy Grace full of ---t kind of thing.

SY are known for being extremely strategic and often feed bits and pieces to the press because they want to put suspects under pressure / have them under surveillance.   From what I can see SY have gone from wanting to wind down the case by Christmas 2012 because they were running out of funds - to convincing the UK Government to fund a full fledged investigation and we know that they have involved the lead CPS team  - CPS in itself indicates that they are potentially sitting on something massive and mean to prosecute i.e. the person/people are alive!  As a result, I am pretty sure CrimeWatch is designed solely for the people they have in their sights rather than actually wanting help from the public.  I also think the libel case has been planned/timed to ensure GA is centre stage in order to take any criticism that the world would have thrown at Portugal......  That is my take.

Offline LagosBen

Re: Is the release of information by SY related to the libel trial in Lisbon?
« Reply #48 on: October 10, 2013, 08:01:11 PM »
It's really positive news that Crimewatch is being shown in Europe Ben.  You never know there may just be German/Dutch holidaymakers who could bring forth new info.  Got my fingers crossed.

Me too  - although I'd have aimed for the Dutch and German Tourist long ago.

Offline Jazzy

Re: Is the release of information by SY related to the libel trial in Lisbon?
« Reply #49 on: October 10, 2013, 08:01:51 PM »
Grow up
The pope has a btter sense of humour than you too and does less pontificating and emotional blackmail, fail 0/10

Why would I try to emotionally blackmail a ...............I'll be polite. Why would you see my sense of humour on a forum discussing a missing child? Is it a place to display a sense of humour? Is it a "party"?

Oh and the grow up, you already said that.

I have, have you?

Offline LagosBen

Re: Is the release of information by SY related to the libel trial in Lisbon?
« Reply #50 on: October 10, 2013, 08:02:42 PM »
The usual jingoistic nonsense from you. Scotland Yard has more failure than successes? Presumably you have statistics to back this up? And the BBC is the joke of the broadcasting world? Compared to what? ITV? Channel 4? Pravda? Fox? The Onion? Al Jazeera? What are you basing this on? It's simply bigoted nonsense, Luz, and it won't do. It just won't do.

Of course she doesn't have proof. Just her usual xenophobic rant.

Redblossom

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Re: Is the release of information by SY related to the libel trial in Lisbon?
« Reply #51 on: October 10, 2013, 08:04:16 PM »
Why would I try to emotionally blackmail a ...............I'll be polite. Why would you see my sense of humour on a forum discussing a missing child? Is it a place to display a sense of humour? Is it a "party"?

Oh and the grow up, you already said that.

I have, have you?

Grow up

Offline Jazzy

Re: Is the release of information by SY related to the libel trial in Lisbon?
« Reply #52 on: October 10, 2013, 08:07:08 PM »
Grow up

You already said that. Adults torment the parents of a missing child, laugh at it and post abuse, do they?

Fair enough.........I'll give it a miss.

Rachel Granada

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Re: Is the release of information by SY related to the libel trial in Lisbon?
« Reply #53 on: October 10, 2013, 08:10:12 PM »
SY are known for being extremely strategic and often feed bits and pieces to the press because they want to put suspects under pressure / have them under surveillance.   From what I can see SY have gone from wanting to wind down the case by Christmas 2012 because they were running out of funds - to convincing the UK Government to fund a full fledged investigation and we know that they have involved the lead CPS team  - CPS in itself indicates that they are potentially sitting on something massive and mean to prosecute i.e. the person/people are alive!  As a result, I am pretty sure CrimeWatch is designed solely for the people they have in their sights rather than actually wanting help from the public.  I also think the libel case has been planned/timed to ensure GA is centre stage in order to take any criticism that the world would have thrown at Portugal......  That is my take.

Hi kmc and welcome to the forum. 

I don't think that the libel case could have been planned/timed - these things depend on court schedules etc.

Offline LagosBen

Re: Is the release of information by SY related to the libel trial in Lisbon?
« Reply #54 on: October 10, 2013, 08:11:15 PM »
Hi kmc and welcome to the forum. 

I don't think that the libel case could have been planned/timed - these things depend on court schedules etc.

True.

Redblossom

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Re: Is the release of information by SY related to the libel trial in Lisbon?
« Reply #55 on: October 10, 2013, 08:15:46 PM »
Hi kmc and welcome to the forum. 

I don't think that the libel case could have been planned/timed - these things depend on court schedules etc.

Exactly but the rest of kmcs post is fairly spot on...well, normally

Offline Luz

Re: Is the release of information by SY related to the libel trial in Lisbon?
« Reply #56 on: October 10, 2013, 08:16:21 PM »
The usual jingoistic nonsense from you. Scotland Yard has more failure than successes? Presumably you have statistics to back this up? And the BBC is the joke of the broadcasting world? Compared to what? ITV? Channel 4? Pravda? Fox? The Onion? Al Jazeera? What are you basing this on? It's simply bigoted nonsense, Luz, and it won't do. It just won't do.


My dear, as I already said tonight, I try to be sympathetic to ignorant, but I really can't stand stupid people.

Offline kmc

Re: Is the release of information by SY related to the libel trial in Lisbon?
« Reply #57 on: October 10, 2013, 08:16:46 PM »
Hi kmc and welcome to the forum. 

I don't think that the libel case could have been planned/timed - these things depend on court schedules etc.

When the case first started - I got the impression that it would be held in September and I imagined a verdict in early October.  At what stage was a verdict/outcome pushed to November?   I am sure that there are murder trials that are less long winded.....   

Offline jassi

Re: Is the release of information by SY related to the libel trial in Lisbon?
« Reply #58 on: October 10, 2013, 08:19:00 PM »
The libel trial might have had uncertain dates, but it has been suggested that the Crimewatch programme was made months ago, so it's scheduled date could have been adjusted to coincide with the trial.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline kmc

Re: Is the release of information by SY related to the libel trial in Lisbon?
« Reply #59 on: October 10, 2013, 08:38:50 PM »
The libel trial might have had uncertain dates, but it has been suggested that the Crimewatch programme was made months ago, so it's scheduled date could have been adjusted to coincide with the trial.

I think that a lot of things have been adjusted to coincide including the NCA launching last Saturday - it is supposed to the UK's new equivalent to the FBI and focuses on international crime including human trafficking.  Also, if SY made the CrimeWatch show six months ago they would have had to film somewhere like Spain because at that stage they had no idea whether Portugal would get behind them or not.  What it does indicate is that we are looking at a very carefully thought out and timed campaign....I think something big is coming.  I hope so anyway!