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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was 50 metres from the apartment 50 metres too far?
« Reply #465 on: October 28, 2015, 09:04:44 PM »
Google 0552165158 Davel for far more honesty that the PR/legal peeps have.

you haven't supplied a cite

Offline pegasus

Re: Was 50 metres from the apartment 50 metres too far?
« Reply #466 on: October 28, 2015, 09:06:11 PM »
LOL - what's LDLTHS, please?
I reserve judgement on the calibre of staff MW may have employed in the UK for a job abroad.
No idea what it stands for Misty. Your guess is as good as mine. Leicester Devon & London Table Hogging Society? 

Offline pegasus

Re: Was 50 metres from the apartment 50 metres too far?
« Reply #467 on: October 28, 2015, 09:24:11 PM »
you haven't supplied a cite
Page 60 Davel I'm citing "23H50" and claiming that is 45 minutes after 23H05.
If you don't believe me try Processos Vol 10 page 2541 line 47.
As I said, this witness is honest , it's the PR peeps who mislead.
And BTW the parent-child distance was 100 metres rather than the usual 90 metres.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2015, 09:28:28 PM by pegasus »

Offline mercury

Re: Was 50 metres from the apartment 50 metres too far?
« Reply #468 on: October 28, 2015, 09:50:52 PM »
Page 60 Davel I'm citing "23H50" and claiming that is 45 minutes after 23H05.
If you don't believe me try Processos Vol 10 page 2541 line 47.
As I said, this witness is honest , it's the PR peeps who mislead.
And BTW the parent-child distance was 100 metres rather than the usual 90 metres.

The poster doesnt do links, quotes and reading the files much, they need help, lets give him it

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN_ARGUIDO.htm

Regarding this night she says that none of the children cried, she would have noticed as she was in the room. Regarding the fact that Madeleine on the next morning, Thursday, during breakfast said to both of them that she had been crying and that nobody had come to her room, she presumes that this crying must have been before she and Gerry returned to the apartment. When she asked Madeleine about this however, the child gave no importance to the matter. On this night they also checked on the children every half hour; however she thinks that 45 minutes had gone by from the time of the last check to when they arrived, as exceptionally they went to the Tapas bar. On this day she thinks that Gerry arrived at the apartment around 23:50 and she arrived 5 minutes afterwards. She went to sleep in Madeleine's room 15/20 minutes afterwards. Before this she spent a few minutes in her bed next to Gerry's.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Was 50 metres from the apartment 50 metres too far?
« Reply #469 on: October 28, 2015, 11:14:37 PM »
The important point is: they could not see the children and didn't want to look in on them either- just that old trustworthy listening service they had.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline mercury

Re: Was 50 metres from the apartment 50 metres too far?
« Reply #470 on: October 29, 2015, 02:57:33 AM »
The important point is: they could not see the children and didn't want to look in on them either- just that old trustworthy listening service they had.

Good question is why the dad at least as we havent a quote from mum , but a near enough insinuation, did he actually even bother going indoors to check if he never actually checked..

Offline pegasus

Re: Was 50 metres from the apartment 50 metres too far?
« Reply #471 on: October 29, 2015, 03:31:15 AM »
Good question is why the dad at least as we havent a quote from mum , but a near enough insinuation, did he actually even bother going indoors to check if he never actually checked..
A good listening check could be done by just opening the sliding door a few cm, listening, then closing it again and back to the restaurant.

Offline mercury

Re: Was 50 metres from the apartment 50 metres too far?
« Reply #472 on: October 29, 2015, 03:37:44 AM »
A good listening check could be done by just opening the sliding door a few cm, listening, then closing it again and back to the restaurant.
Yes but then you wouldnt be able to say i saw my daughter and thought how lucky i was....!

Offline G-Unit

Re: Was 50 metres from the apartment 50 metres too far?
« Reply #473 on: October 29, 2015, 06:55:13 AM »
Yes but then you wouldnt be able to say i saw my daughter and thought how lucky i was....!

Which would mean the children weren't seen at all between 8.30pm and 10pm, unless you count Matthew seeing some humps in cots in that two windowed bedroom.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Was 50 metres from the apartment 50 metres too far?
« Reply #474 on: October 29, 2015, 04:41:06 PM »
Which would mean the children weren't seen at all between 8.30pm and 10pm, unless you count Matthew seeing some humps in cots in that two windowed bedroom.

Indeed which opens up that 'window of opperchancity' <  love that word! lol

And of course one would think they would have been even more cautious, than prevous nights and physically checked the children after Maddies plea for answers to 'where were you last night'...

This could be the reason Gerry claimed he did a physical check (and added he felt someone was in the room), and why JT saw an abductor.... on the same street at the same time as other witneses who saw not her and not the abductor!
and why Kate found Maddie missing... that door being measured very carefully by so many- so that the time scale was narrowed.
 They didn't account for people checking and finding with all the claims of checking and being 'in the garden' that
they didn't bump into the bloody abductor! oh apart from JT  that is.

Kate gave a good description of saying 'yeah,yeah there was only a small window  of opportunity'  CLUCK CLUCK... that interview said a lot about their attitude.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Brietta

Re: Was 50 metres from the apartment 50 metres too far?
« Reply #475 on: October 29, 2015, 04:46:33 PM »
Indeed which opens up that 'window of opperchancity' <  love that word! lol

And of course one would think they would have been even more cautious, than prevous nights and physically checked the children after Maddies plea for answers to 'where were you last night'...

This could be the reason Gerry claimed he did a physical check (and added he felt someone was in the room), and why JT saw an abductor.... on the same street at the same time as other witneses who saw not her and not the abductor!
and why Kate found Maddie missing... that door being measured very carefully by so many- so that the time scale was narrowed.
 They didn't account for people checking and finding with all the claims of checking and being 'in the garden' that
they didn't bump into the bloody abductor! oh apart from JT  that is.

Kate gave a good description of saying 'yeah,yeah there was only a small window  of opportunity'  CLUCK CLUCK... that interview said a lot about their attitude.

It is my understanding that the notion an intruder may have already been in the apartment was a retrospective one.

If you know different, would you please supply a cite for Dr McCann saying at the time ... 
"(and added he felt someone was in the room)"
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Was 50 metres from the apartment 50 metres too far?
« Reply #476 on: October 29, 2015, 04:55:55 PM »
It is my understanding that the notion an intruder may have already been in the apartment was a retrospective one.

If you know different, would you please supply a cite for Dr McCann saying at the time ... 
"(and added he felt someone was in the room)"

Retrospective? ahh I see he added that bit on afterwards for effect. That always bothered me, mind you why say it restrospectivly if you 'felt it at the time'..hmmm no cite today- can't be bothered. You have already agreed he did say it.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Eleanor

Re: Was 50 metres from the apartment 50 metres too far?
« Reply #477 on: October 29, 2015, 05:09:31 PM »
Indeed which opens up that 'window of opperchancity' <  love that word! lol

And of course one would think they would have been even more cautious, than prevous nights and physically checked the children after Maddies plea for answers to 'where were you last night'...

This could be the reason Gerry claimed he did a physical check (and added he felt someone was in the room), and why JT saw an abductor.... on the same street at the same time as other witneses who saw not her and not the abductor!
and why Kate found Maddie missing... that door being measured very carefully by so many- so that the time scale was narrowed.
 They didn't account for people checking and finding with all the claims of checking and being 'in the garden' that
they didn't bump into the bloody abductor! oh apart from JT  that is.

Kate gave a good description of saying 'yeah,yeah there was only a small window  of opportunity'  CLUCK CLUCK... that interview said a lot about their attitude.

Gerry did not say that he felt someone was in the room.  This is a gross distortion of Facts.

Offline Brietta

Re: Was 50 metres from the apartment 50 metres too far?
« Reply #478 on: October 29, 2015, 05:13:01 PM »
Retrospective? ahh I see he added that bit on afterwards for effect. That always bothered me, mind you why say it restrospectivly if you 'felt it at the time'..hmmm no cite today- can't be bothered. You have already agreed he did say it.

You are unable to provide a cite for the simple reason there is none.  What you have posted is therefore inaccurate and you should therefore amend your post to reflect your error.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Was 50 metres from the apartment 50 metres too far?
« Reply #479 on: October 29, 2015, 05:19:33 PM »
Retrospective? ahh I see he added that bit on afterwards for effect. That always bothered me, mind you why say it restrospectivly if you 'felt it at the time'..hmmm no cite today- can't be bothered. You have already agreed he did say it.

Brietta quoted

"It is my understanding that the notion an intruder may have already been in the apartment was a retrospective one."

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Did he or did he not say it  retrospectivly or not? where is your cite he said it retrospectivly?
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin