Was 50 metres from the apartment 50 metres too far?

[G-Unit]

Indeed SiL. If the checks had been every 15 minutes, as we are told the nannies checks were, then the alleged abductor may even have been caught in the act.

I wonder how long it would take fro a child to wake, exit the apartment and wander to the entrance to the Tapas compound.....
9.05 - 9.20 Gerry, Jez Wilkins and Jane Tanner around.
9.15 The Moyes return.
9.25-9.35 Matthew and Russell around.
9.40 Jane again.
9.45 Russell returns.
9.50-10.00 Kate on the way to check.

[Alfred R Jones]

Indeed SiL. If the checks had been every 15 minutes, as we are told the nannies checks were, then the alleged abductor may even have been caught in the act.

15 minutes is more than ample time to abduct a child - I think Heri demonstrated that it would be possible to take the child and be out of PdL in less time.

[jassi]

Yes, if you were using a teleporter and warp speed. 

[Alfred R Jones]

Yes, if you were using a teleporter and warp speed. 

Don't be ridiculous.

[Brietta]

I'm annoyed at the legalese/PR rubbish that was advised Brietta - they would have been much better off without it IMO.
For example the back garden analogy - I bet that was advised by so-called experts IMO, not made up by the parents themselves.

They live every day of their lives with that distance between themselves and Madeleine.  Eight years is a long time to do that. There was not one thing they could do about it when they discovered Madeleine gone and the only thing they can do now is watch and wait for Scotland Yard and the Policia Judiciaria to come up with something about their missing child.  It must be next to unbearable.

Any annoyance felt by posters on a discussion forum fades into insignificance when compared with real pain.

[jassi]

Don't be ridiculous.

   Who's rattled your cage tonight?

[pegasus]

Reputation management seemed most important.

The problem with legalese/image peeps inventing "like dining in the back garden" is they forgot that a few people have access to an advanced top-secret lie-detector device code-named "a ruler".

[G-Unit]

15 minutes is more than ample time to abduct a child - I think Heri demonstrated that it would be possible to take the child and be out of PdL in less time.

The problem is no-one knows what the gaps between checks were. According to the group it could have been between 5 and 15 minutes, but there's no independent verification. There is also nothing to verify that Madeleine was abducted.

[Alfred R Jones]

The problem is no-one knows what the gaps between checks were. According to the group it could have been between 5 and 15 minutes, but there's no independent verification. There is also nothing to verify that Madeleine was abducted.

I was responding to this comment:


Indeed SiL. If the checks had been every 15 minutes, as we are told the nannies checks were, then the alleged abductor may even have been caught in the act.

[G-Unit]

The problem with legalese/image peeps inventing "like dining in the back garden" is they forgot that a few people have access to an advanced top-secret lie-detector device code-named "a ruler".

Perhaps they have huge back gardens also? 

[pegasus]

north bedroom to table = about 10 BGL units

[Alice Purjorick]

Yes, if you were using a teleporter and warp speed. 

The start and finish points of the "operators" might be of relevance too.

[mercury]

So in your eyes,  SY in the form of DCI Redwood, publicly stating that the McCanns and their friends are not suspects or persons of interest in this case is 'erroneous' and is not evidence that the McCanns and their friends are not suspects or persons of interest in this case?   Really?

That may be your idea of 'sticking to the facts' - but it's certainly not mine.

If you had bothered to follow the conversations you will have latched onto what I meant:

Quote from: stephen25000 on November 01, 2015, 07:12:56 PM
Bafflingly illogical alfred ?

To the contrary, many people find it totally baffling why certain parties come on here to defend the mccanns, no matter what.

As to the mccanns 'not using social media', is that an established fact or merely hearsay ?

It is already known they have 'associates' monitoring the internet on their behalf.

You:
Good grief - you actually find it ''totally baffling'' that there are people who agree with the police forces of two countries who have ruled the McCanns out of the investigation - rather than agree with armchair detectives who only have some of the info to go on - no access to anyone involved in the case - and no expertise in policework?      Now that really is baffling IMO.

me:

People defended the mccanns so called childcare arrangements from 2007 , thats years and years before the portuguese reopened the enquiry and years after SY got involved....so your post is erroneous....as is also the statement that both police forces have ruled the mccanns out...you have no evidence which supports that, ok? Good, best stick to facts at all times

You:
the quoted post

So, no I did NOT say Redwoods pronouncements were erroneous, just YOUR argument, but never mind, not going to argue the toss with you any more

[mercury]

Yes it is evident where Madeleine was ... just as it is evident where her parents were.  Less than a minute away, and that is neither crowing or flying.

Why you feel the necessity to embroider the distance apart is a matter entirely for you to pursue. 

In my opinion it adds nothing at all to the circumstances in which Madeleine disappeared, which are not evident.

It serves only to minimise the culpability of the abductor who if Mark Williams-Thomas's theory is correct, or if my theory is correct ... is the person responsible for the crime.

If this person is ever discovered, do you think your argument should form part of his defence?

It might do your argument well if you explained why the time to get to somewhere mattered in any way shape or form if they were not getting there for half hour stretches to begin with!

unless the three toddlers were sleepng on the balcony and the parents had their eyes glued there all night that is...that might have been a little different...not labouring the left alone point as
as if  that werent bad enough, just trying to ensure you are sure of your own logic here

and do remind me what exactly they were checking for that might/would not have happened in between "checks" iyswim

[Alfred R Jones]

   Who's rattled your cage tonight?

My cage is not rattled, but your post was ridiculous.