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Offline Angelo222

Re: maddie would not have vanished if kate and gerry had been there
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2013, 10:51:05 AM »
And, IMO, Crimewatch underlined this. It was all there...Madeleine telling her parents, as best as she could, that she was unhappy and anxious. The McCanns, off to the Tapas Bar, leaving their children in an obviously unsecured apartment. The inadequate, half-hearted, almost grudging checks on the children.

Is there no one who cares enough about Kate and Gerry McCann to advise them to make a public confession of culpability, then to stay well away from television cameras?

Kate talked about Madeleine being exhausted on the very day she disappeared but never explained why.  I will tell you why.

Madeleine was dumped in the crèche as per usual while mummy and daddy did their own thing. Unbeknownst to them Madeleine was down at the beach sobbing her heart out in the lap of a stranger, a nurse, because she was afraid to go out in a boat.  And then we hear that she also questioned her mother that same morning about being left alone in the apartment.

And still they left her alone!!
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Offline carlymichelle

Re: maddie would not have vanished if kate and gerry had been there
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2013, 10:54:30 AM »
Kate talked about Madeleine being exhausted on the very day she disappeared but never explained why.  I will tell you why.

Madeleine was dumped in the crèche as per usual while mummy and daddy did their own thing. Unbeknownst to them Madeleine was down at the beach sobbing her heart out in the lap of a stranger, a nurse, because she was afraid to go out in a boat.  And then we hear that she also questioned her mother that same morning about being left alone in the apartment.

And still they left her alone!!

i also read she  had a  cold so she was scared   at night and crying   wanted  her parents and had to get confort from a stranger on the beach that is   appaling

Offline carlymichelle

Re: maddie would not have vanished if kate and gerry had been there
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2013, 10:56:51 AM »
poor little maddie  she had a terrible holiday no matter how you look at it

Offline Angelo222

Re: maddie would not have vanished if kate and gerry had been there
« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2013, 10:58:24 AM »
People tend only to take advice when it suits them. I feel the McCanns are unable to accept their culpability in this matter

They have been telling each other that they aren't to blame for so long that they even believe it now.
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Offline Lace

Re: maddie would not have vanished if kate and gerry had been there
« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2013, 10:59:12 AM »
Kate talked about Madeleine being exhausted on the very day she disappeared but never explained why.  I will tell you why.

Madeleine was dumped in the crèche as per usual while mummy and daddy did their own thing. Unbeknownst to them Madeleine was down at the beach sobbing her heart out in the lap of a stranger, a nurse, because she was afraid to go out in a boat.  And then we hear that she also questioned her mother that same morning about being left alone in the apartment.

And still they abandoned her!


Dumped in the crèche.

I have never used the crèche facilities myself,  but have been away on holiday with people who have.   Actually their children begged them to go.    Lots of the children seemed to be going and my friends children wanted to join in with them.

They put on little plays and did lots of other activities which they loved.

My friends have taken their children away on holidays to the seaside and abroad to a holiday typical of the one the McCann's went on.

The children have enjoyed both holidays equally.

So I don't think dumping the children in the crèche is a very appropriate description here.

If the children didn't want to go,  as all children they would kick up a fuss and not want to go.

By all accounts the children were enjoying themselves.

As for crying in the lap of the nanny,  well as Kate said Madeleine had said that evening that she had had the best day ever and that she was having lots of fun.    So maybe she was apprehensive about the boat ride to start with no doubt she enjoyed it.



Offline Victoria

Re: maddie would not have vanished if kate and gerry had been there
« Reply #20 on: October 15, 2013, 10:59:32 AM »
poor little maddie  she had a terrible holiday no matter how you look at it

Probably the biggest understatement I have yet read. Jesus Christ.

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Re: maddie would not have vanished if kate and gerry had been there
« Reply #21 on: October 15, 2013, 11:02:07 AM »
poor little maddie  she had a terrible holiday no matter how you look at it

where you there ffs how would you know what kind of holiday madeleine had...are going by your own experience of the shitty holiday you had when your neglective parents left you alone

madeleine looks very happy in her holiday photos so stop making things up ffs
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: maddie would not have vanished if kate and gerry had been there
« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2013, 11:04:35 AM »
"Why didn't you come when we were crying mummy?"

Sounds like she had a whale of a time.
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Offline Benice

Re: maddie would not have vanished if kate and gerry had been there
« Reply #23 on: October 15, 2013, 11:05:52 AM »
Kate talked about Madeleine being exhausted on the very day she disappeared but never explained why.  I will tell you why.

Madeleine was dumped in the crèche as per usual while mummy and daddy did their own thing. Unbeknownst to them Madeleine was down at the beach sobbing her heart out in the lap of a stranger, a nurse, because she was afraid to go out in a boat.  And then we hear that she also questioned her mother that same morning about being left alone in the apartment.

And still they left her alone!!

Why is it only Madeleine who was DUMPED in the Kiddies club..  I don't see any of the other children who were signed up for it being described like that.

Kiddies clubs are designed specifically and exclusively for the enjoyment of the children - they are not torture chambers.    Perhaps people think it would be better to drag them round a chillly beach, or keep them cooped up in the apartment when it rained  - rather than let them have a great time with other children in a Kiddies club. 

 If they were not popular with the children they would not exist.




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Offline Montclair

Re: maddie would not have vanished if kate and gerry had been there
« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2013, 11:06:49 AM »
where you there ffs how would you know what kind of holiday madeleine had...are going by your own experience of the shitty holiday you had when your neglective parents left you alone

madeleine looks very happy in her holiday photos so stop making things up ffs

How often do you see photos of children smiling and looking happy and the article is about how the parents or boyfriend of the mother beat up, tortured, starved or murdered the child.

Offline Montclair

Re: maddie would not have vanished if kate and gerry had been there
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2013, 11:10:42 AM »
Why is it only Madeleine who was DUMPED in the Kiddies club..  I don't see any of the other children who were signed up for it being described like that.

Kiddies clubs are designed specifically and exclusively for the enjoyment of the children - they are not torture chambers.    Perhaps people think it would be better to drag them round a chillly beach, or keep them cooped up in the apartment when it rained  - rather than let them have a great time with other children in a Kiddies club. 

 If they were not popular with the children they would not exist.

The children of the other couples only went to the creche in the mornings whereas Madeleine and the twins were put there morning and afternoon and left alone at night.

Offline jassi

Re: maddie would not have vanished if kate and gerry had been there
« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2013, 11:11:01 AM »
Why is it only Madeleine who was DUMPED in the Kiddies club..  I don't see any of the other children who were signed up for it being described like that.

Kiddies clubs are designed specifically and exclusively for the enjoyment of the children - they are not torture chambers.    Perhaps people think it would be better to drag them round a chillly beach, or keep them cooped up in the apartment when it rained  - rather than let them have a great time with other children in a Kiddies club. 

 If they were not popular with the children they would not exist.

People might be using the word dumped, because she was sent to almost every available session, whereas other children seem to have only gone to some of them.

These creches may be more popular with parents than children - I don't suppose anyone has ever done a survey.
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Re: maddie would not have vanished if kate and gerry had been there
« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2013, 11:12:17 AM »
"Why didn't you come when we were crying mummy?"

Sounds like she had a whale of a time.

one occasion ffs doesn't mean madeleine had terrible holiday ...jesus Christ are you anti's getting so desperate that you making things up now  8-)(--)

Offline carlymichelle

Re: maddie would not have vanished if kate and gerry had been there
« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2013, 11:14:33 AM »
one occasion ffs doesn't mean madeleine had terrible holiday ...jesus Christ are you anti's getting so desperate that you making things up now  8-)(--)

FFS it  was not one  time pam heard maddie  crying  for  70 minutes one night do you have no compassion for maddie?

Offline Lace

Re: maddie would not have vanished if kate and gerry had been there
« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2013, 11:15:28 AM »
People might be using the word dumped, because she was sent to almost every available session, whereas other children seem to have only gone to some of them.

These creches may be more popular with parents than children - I don't suppose anyone has ever done a survey.

What was available for the children?     

They went to the play area,  they went to the pool,  they went to the beach.

Anything else?

They enjoy the crèche.    They had a holiday in Ireland not long before,  who is to say they wouldn't have got another holiday by the seaside later in the year?