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Offline Wonderfulspam

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Re: The Smiths Sighting
« Reply #61 on: October 16, 2013, 12:16:33 PM »
suprised at  this

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/345388/Ex-Portuguese-detective-attemps-to-smear-Maddie-McCann-s-father-again

Its not a smear, its what a witness told the pj, ie fact

I find half these articles funny, consisting of three sentences!
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Offline jassi

Re: The Smiths Sighting
« Reply #62 on: October 16, 2013, 12:20:14 PM »
As the statement is already in the public domain. they Star can report it with impunity, instead of always looking over their shoulders for the shadow of Carter Ruck.
« Last Edit: October 16, 2013, 12:22:52 PM by jassi »
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline xtina

Re: The Smiths Sighting
« Reply #63 on: October 16, 2013, 12:21:11 PM »
The lid is off, they are going to be fed to the lions.  8((()*/


 8((()*/

do you  think it should have  it's  own thread
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

The first storyteller you will always find has modified the story, for there benefit BE WISE.

Offline xtina

Re: The Smiths Sighting
« Reply #64 on: October 16, 2013, 12:45:28 PM »
keep on topic pls

in the article it says  80%.......................not 60 to 80%
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

The first storyteller you will always find has modified the story, for there benefit BE WISE.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Smiths Sighting
« Reply #65 on: October 16, 2013, 12:53:51 PM »
Its not a smear, its what a witness told the pj, ie fact

I find half these articles funny, consisting of three sentences!
 @)(++(*

Is it in the files Red..I would like to see the exact words..

Offline John

Re: The Smiths Sighting
« Reply #66 on: October 16, 2013, 01:00:08 PM »
Please don't post that members are liars or are telling lies.  If you have a complaint please pm myself or admin.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: The Smiths Sighting
« Reply #67 on: October 16, 2013, 01:03:46 PM »
Is it in the files Red..I would like to see the exact words..

Quote from Martin Smith statement...

It was the way Gerard McCann turned his head down which was similar to what the individual did on 3rd May 2007 when we met him. It may have been the way he was carrying the child either. I would be 60-80% sure that it was Gerard McCann that I met that night carrying a child. I am basing that on his mannerism in the way he carried the child off the plane. After seeing the BBC news at 10 PM, footage on the 9th September 2007 I contacted Leicestershire police with this information.

www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm
« Last Edit: October 16, 2013, 01:05:37 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

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Re: The Smiths Sighting
« Reply #68 on: October 16, 2013, 01:04:59 PM »
Its not a smear, its what a witness told the pj, ie fact

I find half these articles funny, consisting of three sentences!
 @)(++(*
What I don't find funny is not respecting orthography : "attemps" in a title !

Offline Victoria

Re: The Smiths Sighting
« Reply #69 on: October 16, 2013, 01:08:02 PM »
Quote from Martin Smith statement...

It was the way Gerard McCann turned his head down which was similar to what the individual did on 3rd May 2007 when we met him. It may have been the way he was carrying the child either. I would be 60-80% sure that it was Gerard McCann that I met that night carrying a child. I am basing that on his mannerism in the way he carried the child off the plane. After seeing the BBC news at 10 PM, footage on the 9th September 2007 I contacted Leicestershire police with this information.

www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm

It's not that convincing really, is it. But it has to be eliminated, just like Jane's sighting, and I have faith that the Met will find out who it was that the Smiths saw.

Offline Benice

Re: The Smiths Sighting
« Reply #70 on: October 16, 2013, 01:11:21 PM »
She made a statement that was knowingly incorrect & misleading, or in other words a lie, those are the facts.

No I did not -  I made a statement based on the evidence and common sense.   

You have been unable to produce any evidence to prove that the rest of the Smith family had any doubts whatsoever that GM was NOT the man they saw.      If they were not 100% sure and did think GM could have been the man, then it stands to reason that is what they would have told Martin Smith when he phoned them -  and he would not then have made the statement he did.   

I have never reported anyone before but if you persist in calling me a liar, I shall report you.  I am not a liar.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline sadie

Re: The Smiths Sighting
« Reply #71 on: October 16, 2013, 01:11:46 PM »
Please don't post that members are liars or are telling lies.  If you have a complaint please pm myself or admin.
Is Wondefulspam going to get the harsh words that I got?  He did it twice against the totally honourable Benice.

Offline sadie

Re: The Smiths Sighting
« Reply #72 on: October 16, 2013, 01:14:01 PM »
No I did not -  I made a statement based on the evidence and common sense.   

You have been unable to produce any evidence to prove that the rest of the Smith family had any doubts whatsoever that GM was NOT the man they saw.      If they were not 100% sure and did think GM could have been the man, then it stands to reason that is what they would have told Martin Smith when he phoned them -  and he would not then have made the statement he did.   

I have never reported anyone before but if you persist in calling me a liar, I shall report you.  I am not a liar.
I have done it for you, Benice ... twice ... once for each time  8((()*/

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The Smiths Sighting
« Reply #73 on: October 16, 2013, 01:32:56 PM »
Martin Smith may have been 60%-80% sure (which isn't really THAT sure is it?) that it might have been Gerry,but other members of the family were 100% sure that it wasn't Gerry.   So on the balance of percentages who is more likely to be right?  Not Martin Smith IMO.

You clearly state here that
"Other members of the family were 100% sure that it wasn't Gerry"

There is no proof of this.
It is a false & misleading statement, which in effect is a lie.
Those are the facts.
I appologise if that offends you, but that is what happened & nothing more.
I don't think you are a compulsive liar or a generally dishonest person,
I have merely pointed out that in the comment you posted, you presented false misleading statistics.
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Re: The Smiths Sighting
« Reply #74 on: October 16, 2013, 01:41:09 PM »
You clearly state here that
"Other members of the family were 100% sure that it wasn't Gerry"

There is no proof of this.
It is a false & misleading statement, which in effect is a lie.
Those are the facts.
I appologise if that offends you, but that is what happened & nothing more.
I don't think you are a compulsive liar or a generally dishonest person,
I have merely pointed out that in the comment you posted, you presented false misleading statistics.

fact is no one know what took part in those discussions between mr smith and his family,maybe some said it might have been but  Im not sure, or probably not, or no I dont think so, mr smith just said they didnt agree, as you say, he didnt say all of them were 100 % sure it wasnt him,...but mrs amith agreed with him, so its on the table, two of the smith family thought it was, doesnt mean they are right, but you do have to factor in mr smiths uncomfortable reaction on seeing GM coming off that plane