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Offline pathfinder73

Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #210 on: November 12, 2013, 10:06:50 PM »
I presume when Gerry locks the front door, Kate carries all 3 children down the steep steps at the back. I'm not totally convinced.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

AnneGuedes

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Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #211 on: November 12, 2013, 10:36:04 PM »
I presume when Gerry locks the front door, Kate carries all 3 children down the steep steps at the back. I'm not totally convinced.
That's what they said and why should they lie ? Mrs McCann had not to carry her kids, they could walk !

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #212 on: November 12, 2013, 10:51:44 PM »
Why Lie? Because by the time he did his 10 May statement he had known that the tracking dogs had been used. And he wanted to show that the abductor must have taken Madeleine out the front door as Madeleine never came through that door at 5.30pm on 3 May. Of course he would lie if he was involved.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2013, 10:58:53 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

AnneGuedes

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Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #213 on: November 12, 2013, 11:11:41 PM »
Why Lie? Because by the time he did his 10 May statement he had known that the tracking dogs had been used. And he wanted to show that the abductor must have taken Madeleine out the front door as Madeleine never came through that door at 5.30pm on 3 May. Of course he would lie if he was involved.
The McCanns saw the first dog, Numi, in the flat. They gave the blanket for the dog to smell. I guess that the handler must have told them which route the dog had taken.
If the issue was to check which route Madeleine took to go to the flat for the last time, they should have brought the dogs near the Tapas and start from there.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #214 on: November 12, 2013, 11:14:31 PM »
Agreed. I believe that Madeleine came through the front door entrance at 5.30pm not the back. The dogs followed her last outdoor alive scent at 5.30pm from the front door around the lanes to the car park where it was then lost.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2013, 11:16:04 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline VIXTE

Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #215 on: November 12, 2013, 11:39:45 PM »
Agreed. I believe that Madeleine came through the front door entrance at 5.30pm not the back. The dogs followed her last outdoor alive scent at 5.30pm from the front door around the lanes to the car park where it was then lost.

And why it cannot be the abductor leaving with Madeleine through the front door?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #216 on: November 12, 2013, 11:45:29 PM »
Because an abductor would use the car park behind the apartment. He would not go walking around lanes with Madeleine to another car park much further away and opposite the tapas bar. Remember that car park where the scent was lost was on the way to the crèche where Madeleine came back from  at 5.30pm - it connects direction wise.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2013, 11:49:27 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline VIXTE

Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #217 on: November 12, 2013, 11:51:22 PM »
Because an abductor would use the car park behind the apartment. He would not go walking around lanes with Madeleine to another car park much further away and opposite the tapas bar. Remember that car park where the scent was lost was on the way to the crèche where Madeleine came back from  at 5.30pm - it connects direction wise.

Are you sure he had a car handy?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #218 on: November 12, 2013, 11:58:03 PM »
No I don't believe he had a car as Smithman wasn't driving.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline sadie

Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #219 on: November 12, 2013, 11:58:56 PM »
Because an abductor would use the car park behind the apartment. He would not go walking around lanes with Madeleine to another car park much further away and opposite the tapas bar. Remember that car park where the scent was lost was on the way to the crèche where Madeleine came back from  at 5.30pm - it connects direction wise.
I am not understanding you Pathfinder.

Are you theinking the Tapas area is at the Front?  Cos that is actually the back.

The front is to the north of the building.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #220 on: November 13, 2013, 12:15:00 AM »
Yeah car park in front of the apartment an abductor would use.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline sadie

Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #221 on: November 13, 2013, 12:19:55 AM »
Yeah car park in front of the apartment an abductor would use.
I dont think so.  No cars there when I went in June /july 2019.

A car there would have stood out like a sore thumb and the number and description quite possibly taken. 

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #222 on: November 13, 2013, 12:26:47 AM »
It doesn't matter to me because Smithman didn't have a car.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline VIXTE

Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #223 on: November 13, 2013, 12:31:51 AM »
No I don't believe he had a car as Smithman wasn't driving.

It could be someone known to Madeleine, taking her all the dogs route to the car park, If anyone seen them the excuse would be 'we are looking for her parents' and then the person handing her to a parked car with the smiths man again telling her they are taking her to her parents. driving off fast from there with Madeleine and then he parked near the smiths sighting and moved on foot. either to a boat or to his house
« Last Edit: November 13, 2013, 12:33:57 AM by VIXTE »

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Did the moving door have any relevance to Madeleine's disappearance?
« Reply #224 on: November 13, 2013, 12:35:34 AM »
They need to identify Smithman to crack the case. Everything will become crystal clear when that happens. Everything connects.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.