Leicestershire Police & The Met.

[Kazcutt]

 "While one or both of them may be innocent, there is no clear evidence that eliminates them from involvement in Madeleine's disappearance.".

Where has this been taken from

[Wonderfulspam]

"While one or both of them may be innocent, there is no clear evidence that eliminates them from involvement in Madeleine's disappearance.".

Where has this been taken from

Leicestershire Police statement from when the McCanns requested to see the file they had on the case.
I'm not sure of the exact date, but it is in Kates Book.

[jassi]

Leicestershire Police statement from when the McCanns requested to see the file they had on the case.
I'm not sure of the exact date, but it is in Kates Book.

July 2008  http://www.mccannfiles.com/id130.html

[Wonderfulspam]

July 2008  http://www.mccannfiles.com/id130.html

Thanks Jassi

[Mr Gray]

Proof of this please.

the proof is all over the forum..you only have to look

[Jazzy]

Still it was a nice little twist though, while it lasted.

[Benice]

"The first statement was made while the McCanns were still Arguidos."
Proof of this please?

I seem to remember the Leicestershire Police statement was made after the McCanns requested to see the case file, prior to the release of Kates book & a long time after the arguido status was lifted? Maybe I'm entirely wrong, but I'm having trouble finding the exact date of the statement.

Kate and Gerry were in Canada until 10th July 2008.   

The above hearing took place whilst they were away. 

Their arguido status was removed on 21st July.

Therefore they were still Arguidos when the Asst Chief Constable made his statement to the court.

Kate's book - pages 315-316 refer.
I believe there are other articles on line which refer to the date of this Hearing as 7th July.

[Wonderfulspam]

Kate and Gerry were in Canada until 10th July 2008.   

The above hearing took place whilst they were away. 

Their arguido status was removed on 21st July.

Therefore they were still Arguidos when the Asst Chief Constable made his statement to the court.

Kate's book - pages 315-316 refer.
I believe there are other articles on line which refer to the date of this Hearing as 7th July.

Thanks, not much time between the lifting of the status & the police statement then.

[Benice]

Thanks, not much time between the lifting of the status & the police statement then.

I'm not sure what you mean W - but the McCanns were arguidos when the Asst. Police constable made his statement - and IMO his statement was made with that important fact in mind.
 
How would he know that their Arguido status was going to be lifted and when that would happen?

The statement was made over 5 years ago and before the AGs final report was released.   Anyone who thinks it still holds any weight in the present evaluation of this case as described by SY is being seriously unrealistic IMO.

[Wonderfulspam]

The point being this,
Since the Leicestershire Police statement was made & then the arguido status lifted & since the Met review began, If any evidence which proved the McCanns complete & undeniable innocence in relation to Madeleines disappearance had been uncovered then the Portugeuse Investigation would have reopened.
It has not & so in that instance how is it possible that the Met have concluded that McCanns are neither suspects nor persons of interest?

[AnneGuedes]

The point being this,
Since the Leicestershire Police statement was made & then the arguido status lifted & since the Met review began, If any evidence which proved the McCanns complete & undeniable innocence in relation to Madeleines disappearance had been uncovered then the Portugeuse Investigation would have reopened.
It has not & so in that instance how is it possible that the Met have concluded that McCanns are neither suspects nor persons of interest?

The only evidence able to demonstrate that the McCanns have nothing to do with the disappearance of Madeleine is an evidence of abduction, either from bed or from the public space. There's no other possibility and this is what SY is running after.

[John]

The Legal Situation as Exists.

Leicestershire Police and the Metropolitan Police have never conducted a full investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann because, to put it simply, they have no jurisdiction in Portugal.  Consequently they are not in any position to make any lawful determination as to the status of any individuals of interest in the case.

Given the locus of the disappearance it fell to the Portuguese Police to carry out a full investigation.  This investigation was assisted by various police and specialist units from the UK.  In the end it was concluded that the nature of Madeleine's disappear and he could not be determined.  It could not be determined what happened Madeleine, if a crime had taken place, its nature or whom if anyone was involved.  In the end and as a result of various factors including the refusal by certain members of the tapas group to cooperate with the inquiry, the Portuguese Attorney General had no option but to archive the case. This Archiving Report sets out the reasons why the investigation had to be shelved and the conditions on which it could be reopened.

Latest.

Scotland Yard are now undertaking their own investigation following a review of the Portuguese police files. This investigation can only progress and indeed succeed with the total and absolute cooperation of the Portuguese police and the Office of the Attorney General.  To date there is little evidence of such cooperation. 

[Wonderfulspam]

The Legal Situation as Exists.

Leicestershire Police and the Metropolitan Police have never conducted a full investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann because, to put it simply, they have no jurisdiction in Portugal.  Consequently they are not in any position to make any lawful determination as to the status of any individuals of interest in the case.

Given the locus of the disappearance it fell to the Portuguese Police to carry out a full investigation.  This investigation was assisted by various police and specialist units from the UK.  In the end it was concluded that the nature of Madeleine's disappear and he could not be determined.  It could not be determined what happened Madeleine, if a crime had taken place, its nature or whom if anyone was involved.  In the end and as a result of various factors including the refusal by certain members of the tapas group to cooperate with the inquiry, the Portuguese Attorney General had no option but to archive the case. This Archiving Report sets out the reasons why the investigation had to be shelved and the conditions on which it could be reopened.

Latest.

Scotland Yard are now undertaking their own investigation following a review of the Portuguese police files. This investigation can only progress and indeed succeed with the total and absolute cooperation of the Portuguese police and the Office of the Attorney General.  To date there is little evidence of such cooperation. 

Where is the bit about Kirsty Young also having the authority to "formally clear" the McCanns via BBC tv.

[Carana]

The point being this,
Since the Leicestershire Police statement was made & then the arguido status lifted & since the Met review began, If any evidence which proved the McCanns complete & undeniable innocence in relation to Madeleines disappearance had been uncovered then the Portugeuse Investigation would have reopened.
It has not & so in that instance how is it possible that the Met have concluded that McCanns are neither suspects nor persons of interest?

Could you substantiate that from the criminal process code?

[Wonderfulspam]

Could you substantiate that from the criminal process code?

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id136.html

Nevertheless, anyone who feels unsatisfied about the epilogue of the investigations, will have the possibility to react against it, having the possibility of eventually changing that epilogue, by prompting diligences based on new evidence, as long as that person has the legitimacy to request them and the requested diligences are serious, pertinent and consequent. They may do so in three ways: by requesting the reopening of the inquiry, under article 279, number 1 of the Penal Process Code; by appealing hierarchically against this dispatch under number 2 of article 278, or in another case, under number 2 of article 279 of the Penal Process Code, or by requesting the opening of the instruction under article 287, number 1, item b, of the Penal Process Code.