Kate and Gerry and the jemmied shutter claim.

[Mr Gray]

Tell me Red, do you really think that it never entered either of the McCanns heads that the police wouldn't think it was a just a wee bit suspicious if the shutters showed no evidence whatsoever of being forced?   Were they really that thick?    I don't think so.

Nigh night.

But the shutters were forced..they were forced upwards..and tahts what K and G said

[AnneGuedes]

Does anyone really think that two intelligent people would open the shutters themselves, and then claim they had been forced open without doing some damage to them first to prove they had been forced?   

Mr McCann experimented them, first thing after the disappearance, and was horrified to observe they could be lifted on the outside. So he well knew that those shutters were in a perfect state... Why then did they deliberately chose to announce broken shutters in all their phone calls !

[Redblossom]

Tell me Red, do you really think that it never entered either of the McCanns heads that the police wouldn't think it was a just a wee bit suspicious if the shutters showed no evidence whatsoever of being forced?   Were they really that thick?    I don't think so.

Nigh night.

but they never said that to the stupid blundering PJ cops did they just to all their friends and relatives in the UK..To whip up an abduction scenario ,,,,,,I  mean its not as if the PJ could charge them for spreading false stories abroad hey? And doh! Nite nite too dear

Ps yes I think the mccanns are both crafty and thick, intelligent? I dont think so for a single second...

[Mr Gray]

Mr McCann experimented them, first thing after the disappearance, and was horrified to observe they could be lifted on the outside. So he well knew that those shutters were in a perfect state... Why then did they deliberately chose to announce broken shutters in all their phone calls !

clutching at straws and scraping the bottom of the barrel at the same time..quite an achievement..but desperate times..desperate measures

[Benice]

But the shutters were forced..they were forced upwards..and tahts what K and G said

Yes I also think that is what they said.   What I should have said to Red was;-
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Tell me Red, do you really think that it never entered either of the McCanns heads that the police wouldn't think it was a just a wee bit suspicious if the shutters showed no evidence whatsoever of being jemmied/broken/smashed -or whatever else it's been claimed they said?    Were they really that thick?    I don't think so.
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Personally I think the whole idea that the McCanns lied about the shutters is ridiculous.  They simply said what they THOUGHT had happened at the time i.e. that the abductor had gained entrance via the bedroom window.    An opinion is not a lie.     

The relatives/friends they subsequently spoke to -  because were not there to see the scene for themselves and had to imagine it  - simply put their own interpretations on what they had been told and used their own words when they repeated it to others.

[Mr Gray]

Yes I also think that is what they said.   What I should have said to Red was;-
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Tell me Red, do you really think that it never entered either of the McCanns heads that the police wouldn't think it was a just a wee bit suspicious if the shutters showed no evidence whatsoever of being jemmied/broken/smashed -or whatever else it's been claimed they said?    Were they really that thick?    I don't think so.
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Personally I think the whole idea that the McCanns lied about the shutters is ridiculous.  They simply said what they THOUGHT had happened at the time i.e. that the abductor had gained entrance via the bedroom window.    An opinion is not a lie.     

The relatives/friends they subsequently spoke to -  because were not there to see the scene for themselves and had to imagine it  - simply put their own interpretations on what they had been told and used their own words when they repeated it to others.

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thanks Benice..you have it spot on

[Redblossom]

Totally a waste....fact is the mccanns conveyed to their rellies and mates the story about the jemmied and  forced  shutters...documented fact.in video and police statements...and end of

[Mr Gray]

Totally a waste....fact is the mccanns conveyed to their rellies and mates the story about the jemmied and  forced  shutters...documented fact.in video and police statements...and end of

no they didnt

[Redblossom]

no they didnt

Yes they did....kate is in record in the police file statements for one, some are are on video...still you can stick your head in the sand.....if it pleases you....

[Redblossom]

Seeing as it's pant season......OH YES THEY DID! 

Lol

 

davel is wrong again....what a surprise

[Mr Gray]

Lol

 

davel is wrong again....what a surprise

no im right again...k and g never used the word gemmied..it was a chinese whisper

[Redblossom]

no im right again...k and g never used the word gemmied..it was a chinese whisper

Gerrys SISTERwas the first person he rang and it was HER who went n TV and said gerry said the shutters  were JEMMIED.....from the horses mouth even if YOU davel dont like it LOLOL its true, get OVER IT


 

[j.rob]

kate and Gerry never said the windows had been jemmied

So what? Who really cares and what has it got to do with the case anyway? The Mark Warner representative who was involved in the disappearance at the beginning (before the media circus and spin doctors and myths arrived) stated that there was no sign of a forced entry into the apartment.

So, Davel, you are so adamant about what the McCann parents said and didn't say.

Please enlighten the rest of us. What exactly do the McCann parents claim happened to Madeleine?

And, if they were not there when it happened, or if they had no prior knowledge of what happened, then how do they know what happened? They can only speculate on what happened. Which is not fact. And, in actual fact, their speculation could be a myth.

If the McCanns felt that abduction by a paedophile might be something that would happen in the resort, why did they leave 3 children under 4 alone in an unlocked apartment every night?

But, as I have repeatedly stated, there is no evidence that Madeleine was abducted by a stranger who was a paedophile. So that could be a myth.

[j.rob]

All sorts of Chinese whispers coming from all sorts of places - a bit like the paedophile abduction theory - perhaps that is another Chinese whisper?  The billowing curtains - the 'whoosh' of air - the empty bed at which point Kate 'just knew' what had happened.  Must have been a giant crystal ball in the room at the time.

[j.rob]

Clarification required - what I meant to write was the Mark Warner representative who commented on the disappearance. He appeared to be a voice of logic, reason and calm in the face of a storm of hype, hysteria and (dare I say it?) myths. Interestingly, he was very swiftly ignored - guess his view point did not fit certain agendas.