Kate and Gerry and the jemmied shutter claim.

[Alfred R Jones]

I find it extremely sad that in 2015 people are STILL going on about "jemmied shutters".

[Angelo222]

It was two relatives and two friends, all of whom were telephoned by one of the McCanns and told the same story. I can think of no reason why four people would tell the same story if they invented it.

Trish Cameron told the Mirror what her brother said when he phoned her;

The door was open and the window in the bedroom and shutters were jemmied open. Nothing had been touched and no valuables taken."

Jon Corner spoke to Kate;

"Kate said the shutters of the room were smashed. Madeleine was missing

Jill Renwick told GMTV what Kate told her;

 "Poor Kate and Gerry don't know where to turn. She's obviously been taken as she couldn't have gone out on her own and the shutters had been forced open."

"The shutters had been broken open and they've gone into the room and taken her."

Brian Healy was told the same story by Gerald;

"Gerry told me when they went back the shutters to the room were broken, they were jemmied up and she was gone," said Mr Healy. "She'd been taken from the chalet. The door was open."
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id31.html

A crowbar, wrecking bar, pry bar, or prybar, pinch-bar or sometimes a prise bar, prisebar, and more informally a jimmy, jimmy bar, jemmy or PikiPiki [1] or gooseneck is a tool consisting of a metal bar with a single curved end and flattened points, often with a small fissure on one or both ends for removing nails. In Britain, Ireland, New Zealand and Australia, due to the influence of American TV "crowbar" may occasionally be used loosely for this tool, but it is still mainly used to mean a larger straighter tool, its original English meaning (see digging bar). The term jemmy or jimmy most often refers to the tool when used for burglary.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crowbar_(tool)

Its a pity the forum doesn't have a post of the day because I would nominate yours for sheer content.

[stephen25000]

I find it extremely sad that in 2015 people are STILL going on about "jemmied shutters".

One of your groundhog days.

C u Jemmy, would be appropriate here. *&*%£


 (courtesy of Russ Abott)

[sadie]

I find it extremely sad that in 2015 people are STILL going on about "jemmied shutters".

Me too

Pathetic aint it?

[stephen25000]

Me too

Pathetic aint it?

You mean just like people who go on and on, claiming abduction is the only logical scenario ?   +

[sadie]

You mean just like people who go on and on, claiming abduction is the only logical scenario ?   +

TBH, The only logical scenario is abduction.

Soz stephen



Is the cricket any good, or has it finished?

[stephen25000]

TBH, The only logical scenario is abduction.

Soz stephen



Is the cricket any good, or has it finished?

No it isn't.

The test match should be over, pun intended, by tomorrow.

[Alfred R Jones]

You mean just like people who go on and on, claiming abduction is the only logical scenario ?   +

Describe a more logical and plausible scenario and I'll have to accept it.

[Mr Gray]

You mean just like people who go on and on, claiming abduction is the only logical scenario ?   +

who are these people...I've always said it is the most probable scenario not the only logical scenario...I bet if I told you I'd had to force my back door open you would be telling everyone I'd gemmied it...

[sadie]

Describe a more logical and plausible scenario and I'll have to accept it.

Me too.

I will look at it carefully and if has any strength consider it as being correct maybe.


Altho on second thoughts, why should I.  Madeleine is almost certainly still alive, or was only about 3 years ago.

[stephen25000]

who are these people...I've always said it is the most probable scenario not the only logical scenario...I bet if I told you I'd had to force my back door open you would be telling everyone I'd gemmied it...

The 'jemmied', that's a 'j' by the way, and not a 'g', clearly came from camp mccann.

There isn't evidence of any nature that could be taken to court at the moment.

That will remain the case, bar a confession.

[Mr Gray]

The 'jemmied', that's a 'j' by the way, and not a 'g', clearly cane from camp mccann.

There isn't evidence of any nature that could be taken to court at the moment.

That will remain the case, bar a confession.

certainly did come from the camp McCann  no boubt adoubt it...sorry I'm slightly dyslexic.....all part of being a genius.....

[stephen25000]

certainly did come from the camp McCann  no boubt adoubt it...sorry I'm slightly dyslexic.....all part of being a genius.....

Now there are delusions, and there are delusions.

[G-Unit]

the four people would no doubt have discussed the issue with each other.......there is no hard evidence that the mccanns changed their story re the shutter...Gerry used the word forced and the story changed as it was repeated.....simple.  another piece of so called evidence that some use to doubt the McCanns is worthless

"Gerry told me when they went back the shutters to the room were broken, they were jemmied up and she was gone," said Mr Healy.

During the night of 3rd to 4th May would Kate's father have a) kept the phone line free in case his family rang to say his granddaughter had been found or b) phoned his son-in-law's sister and his daughter's friends to compare stories? Let me see.... &%+((£

[Alfred R Jones]

"Gerry told me when they went back the shutters to the room were broken, they were jemmied up and she was gone," said Mr Healy.

During the night of 3rd to 4th May would Kate's father have a) kept the phone line free in case his family rang to say his granddaughter had been found or b) phoned his son-in-law's sister and his daughter's friends to compare stories? Let me see.... &%+((£

I think it's highly plausible that Gerry would have asked his father-in-law to contact nearest and dearest in England to let them know what had happened -  why is that not very likely in your book?