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icabodcrane

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Re: The Libel Trial - So who or what did hinder the search for Madeleine??
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2013, 03:41:32 PM »
Another thing that I think probably damaged the search was the McCanns relentless  'awareness'  campaign

I know that may be a controversial opinion,  but I really do feel that chasing  'sightings'  reported from all over the world took valuable resources and police manpower away from the immediate job at hand

Lyall

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Re: The Libel Trial - So who or what did hinder the search for Madeleine??
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2013, 04:11:48 PM »
Another thing that I think probably damaged the search was the McCanns relentless  'awareness'  campaign

I know that may be a controversial opinion,  but I really do feel that chasing  'sightings'  reported from all over the world took valuable resources and police manpower away from the immediate job at hand

Not controversial at all - plenty of police would agree with you I think, probably including review boss Hamish Campbell after his experience on the Dando investigation. Information overload is a huge problem on high profile cases like these.

Offline Eleanor

Re: The Libel Trial - So who or what did hinder the search for Madeleine??
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2013, 04:26:18 PM »
There are a very limited number of people who can actually help to locate Madeleine.  Unfortunately, no one knows who they are, and they probably don't know themselves.  So it is necessary to keep the profile of Madeleine high in the minds of everyone.  This is what The McCanns seek to do.
But if people think that she is dead then some people simply won't bother to even think about anything that might be suspicious.

There is no doubt that the word of the PJ Inspector who coordinated the case will have been taken into account as more reliable than most, which is one of the reasons for why his word had to be challenged.
He was also becoming more vociferous as the months went by.

Personally, I believe that if he had stopped with his book then The McCanns would have let it go by.  It was the video and the numerous interviews that made it obvious to anyone that he was just going to go on and on with even more explicit theories.,  which have fuelled the most appalling Internet campaign against The McCanns, and consequently Madeleine.

I have no idea what will become of The Libel Trial, but one must remember that this was instituted some considerable time ago when Amaral was at his worst in defaming The McCanns.  No Police Officer ex or otherwise should be allowed to do this when he has absolutely no proof.

Aegean

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Re: The Libel Trial - So who or what did hinder the search for Madeleine??
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2013, 05:07:46 PM »
I agree with icabodcrane and Lyall. And John.

Also, with such a media overload, it always struck me that if somebody had taken Madeleine then she was now especially dangerous to them and that might make them think the only thing they could now do is get rid of her all together (i.e. kill her).

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Libel Trial - So who or what did hinder the search for Madeleine??
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2013, 06:01:53 PM »
The sun? Not the news paper, the celestial body. Didn't Kate say it was too dark?

no she didn't..you do believe some rubbish

C.Edwards

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Re: The Libel Trial - So who or what did hinder the search for Madeleine??
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2013, 06:09:47 PM »
The sun? Not the news paper, the celestial body. Didn't Kate say it was too dark?

Direct quote from Saint Kate: "As soon as it was light, Gerry and I returned to our search..."  I'd agree that this indicates that, prior to it being light, it was too dark to search for some reason best known to the McCanns.

Offline imustpointout

Re: The Libel Trial - So who or what did hinder the search for Madeleine??
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2013, 06:11:18 PM »
the clue is in "dark"

C.Edwards

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Re: The Libel Trial - So who or what did hinder the search for Madeleine??
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2013, 06:14:46 PM »
the clue is in "dark"

Please elaborate. I don't follow your argument?

Offline imustpointout

Re: The Libel Trial - So who or what did hinder the search for Madeleine??
« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2013, 06:16:12 PM »
Please elaborate. I don't follow your argument?

just to elaborate - it was dark

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Libel Trial - So who or what did hinder the search for Madeleine??
« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2013, 06:18:21 PM »
Direct quote from Saint Kate: "As soon as it was light, Gerry and I returned to our search..."  I'd agree that this indicates that, prior to it being light, it was too dark to search for some reason best known to the McCanns.
and what do you think "retuned to our search" indicates

C.Edwards

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Re: The Libel Trial - So who or what did hinder the search for Madeleine??
« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2013, 06:20:14 PM »
just to elaborate - it was dark

So are you saying that Kate McCann is saying, implicitly at least, that it was too dark to search prior to the point at which they determined it was light enough?  Too dark to go out and look for their missing child. With torches, perhaps?

Oh, you may want to point out to davel at some point that he's made a bit of a whoopsie of himself again a bit further up there ^^^ if that's the case.  Angelo has a less polite way of putting it that I shan't repeat  8(0(*

Offline gilet

Re: The Libel Trial - So who or what did hinder the search for Madeleine??
« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2013, 06:23:31 PM »
Two questions.

Firstly, in light of this forum rule, "ensure that any material posted is accompanied by the relevant links" could I ask Angelo to provide links to support his claim in the OP that investigating officers always say 'No.'?

Secondly, with respect to the matter of the McCanns' searching. What other methods of searching is Angelo proposing that the McCanns should have undertaken besides hiring Private Investigators and maintaining a very high profile for their daughter in order that millions of people keep a look out for her? Is there some suggestion that they should have perhaps done as Birch did illegally and break into properties to dig up gardens? Should they have spent the last six years searching bins in the neighbourhood of PDL? Should they have personally learned to drive bulldozers and spent their lives digging over the sand and rocks of PDL beach? Just what are they supposed to have been doing in the eyes of Angelo I wonder?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: The Libel Trial - So who or what did hinder the search for Madeleine??
« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2013, 06:25:10 PM »
So are you saying that Kate McCann is saying, implicitly at least, that it was too dark to search prior to the point at which they determined it was light enough?  Too dark to go out and look for their missing child. With torches, perhaps?

Oh, you may want to point out to davel at some point that he's made a bit of a whoopsie of himself again a bit further up there ^^^ if that's the case.  Angelo has a less polite way of putting it that I shan't repeat  8(0(*

You can do it yourself  kate never said it was too dark to search...could
you try and stick to the truth

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The Libel Trial - So who or what did hinder the search for Madeleine??
« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2013, 06:27:25 PM »
So are you saying that Kate McCann is saying, implicitly at least, that it was too dark to search prior to the point at which they determined it was light enough?  Too dark to go out and look for their missing child. With torches, perhaps?

Oh, you may want to point out to davel at some point that he's made a bit of a whoopsie of himself again a bit further up there ^^^ if that's the case.  Angelo has a less polite way of putting it that I shan't repeat  8(0(*

"Searched through the night" I've heard used in missing persons incidents before. Seems she wasn't important enough for that.
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C.Edwards

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Re: The Libel Trial - So who or what did hinder the search for Madeleine??
« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2013, 06:29:57 PM »
"Searched through the night" I've heard used in missing persons incidents before. Seems she wasn't important enough for that.

I still can't believe that the McCanns think it is in any way reasonable to spend the night making phone calls/texting/deleting texts/whatever and then only popping out to search once they deem it light enough.  Maybe it's just me, but I'd have been out there tearing up bushes with my bare hands looking for a missing daughter of mine.  Banging on doors, looking around, you know... "searching" I think it's called?