Bamber case on ITV Tonight Programme 29th March 2012

[John]

Credit where credit is due, Mark Williams-Thomas has responded to our point and tweets.....

Mark Williams-Thomas ‏ @mwilliamsthomas
@Justice_forum Am very happy to have a sensible debate- you are convinced Bamber is guilty & that is fine ....


@Justice_forum But you need to consider the evidence in relation to the 3 aspects the trial judge said were at the center of the case ..



To us this would indicate that they are attempting to get Bamber out on a technicality rather than evidence of his innocence.

This is the danger when you apply modern day science to an early 1980's case.  They have had nearly 27 years to do tests on some poor old dead porky carcass but chose never to do so.

In the final analysis however, the evidence which clears Sheila is overwhelming rendering Bambr guilty by default.  Had he not told the police that his father had told him that Sheila had the gun he might just have got away with it.

Fatal mistake indeed boyo!

[Tim Invictus]

How do these people lsleep knowing they are accusing a murdered girl of abusing the dead body of the father she adored. It is quite shameful.

Any intelligent person looking at the evidence can easily see Sheila couldn't have committed those murders.

[John]

Former Essex Police Sergeant Chris Bews explains to interviewer Mark Williams-Thomas how Jeremy Bamber told him as they walked around the perimeter of the farmhouse that he had seen movement at an upstairs window.

Bews stated that he thought it was merely a reflection from a window pane on one of the upper floors.  He was quite satisfied that there was no movement.

 

[John]

Former Essex Police detective Inspector and Scene of Crimes Officer Ronald Cook entered the farmhouse at around 9.20am on the morning of the murders.

He recalls that Nevill Bamber was in the kitchen near the fire. Upstairs in the main bedroom June Bambers body was lying in the doorway and on the far side of the bed was Sheila Caffell's body and in an adjoining bedroom were the body of the two twins. It was quite apparent that they had all suffered a number of wounds caused by bullets.

[John]

Sheila, June and the twins in happier times.

[John]

At Jeremy Bamber's trial, the judge in his summing up directed the jury to three crucial questions...

1. Did they believe Julie Mugford or Jeremy Bamber?

2. Did they believe that Nevill Bamber had made a phone call to his son Jeremy in the early hours.

3. And were they sure that Sheila did not kill the others before committing suicide and in particular did they believe a silencer was used?

If so they could conclude Jeremy was guilty.

[puglove]

Preece has obviously been warned after last night's odious outbursts. It won't last.

[John]

Former convicted fraudster and now Guardian prisons reporter Eric Allison stated that it cannot be more significant the judge in summing up told the jury that on the evidence of the silencer alone you may find Mr Bamber guilty.

[John]

Preece has obviously been warned after last night's odious outbursts. It won't last.

It never does Alfonso.  What did she say last night anyway as I was far too busy to look at fantasy forum.

[Matthew Wyse]

Some excellent quotes on this thread chaps, it is quite remarkable how much you don't take in on one viewing alone.  The more I watch the programme the more i believe that Jeremy is the schizophrenic and not his sister as he attempted to claim in the film.

Here is the link for anyone wanting to view it today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i2CjYDJGTo

[puglove]

Preece has obviously been warned after last night's odious outbursts. It won't last.

It never does Alfonso.  What did she say last night anyway as I was far too busy to look at fantasy forum.

The usual bitter, jealous, personal insults aimed at Julie Mugford. Would that Preece had a millionth of Julie's grace and dignity.

[Tim Invictus]

Big surprise .... Gladys, Buddy and The Roach are all agreed that the programme was crap for the Bamberettes!  I congratulate these three for being honest ... unlike Nelly 1006 (who is actively involved in trying to free The Beast) who think's the programme was excellent.

There was an excellent programme on a notorious murder last night but it was David Vine's piece on the Annie Dewani murder! That's how it's done ITV.

[Tim Invictus]

Preece has obviously been warned after last night's odious outbursts. It won't last.

It never does Alfonso.  What did she say last night anyway as I was far too busy to look at fantasy forum.

The usual bitter, jealous, personal insults aimed at Julie Mugford. Would that Preece had a millionth of Julie's grace and dignity.

Hear, hear. Nicely put!

[Matthew Wyse]

Preece has obviously been warned after last night's odious outbursts. It won't last.

It never does Alfonso.  What did she say last night anyway as I was far too busy to look at fantasy forum.

The usual bitter, jealous, personal insults aimed at Julie Mugford. Would that Preece had a millionth of Julie's grace and dignity.

Hear, hear. Nicely put!

Why is it she has it in for all the women in this case?  Ann and Julie were her initial targets and then she started on our very own Shona and Andrea. Jeremy is lucky to have such a wonderful woman on his side.  I am sure he will be grateful for all she has done as he spends the next 25 years behind bars because the silly cow cannot hold her tongue.

[Tim Invictus]

Preece has obviously been warned after last night's odious outbursts. It won't last.

It never does Alfonso.  What did she say last night anyway as I was far too busy to look at fantasy forum.

The usual bitter, jealous, personal insults aimed at Julie Mugford. Would that Preece had a millionth of Julie's grace and dignity.

Hear, hear. Nicely put!

Why is it she has it in for all the women in this case?  Ann and Julie were her initial targets and then she started on our very own Shona and Andrea. Jeremy is lucky to have such a wonderful woman on his side.  I am sure he will be grateful for all she has done as he spends the next 25 years behind bars because the silly cow cannot hold her tongue.

Don't forget Ann's daughter, Danielle Hammond and all the other women Bamber has ever known, the mutts in the Campaign Shed, Weety and Aunt Agatha .... the sad life a desperately lonely Bamber stalker!