Author Topic: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?  (Read 90940 times)

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Offline Carana

Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2013, 04:36:34 PM »
Why has this thread about the CMTV programme turned into a discussion about Calpol?

ferryman

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Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #16 on: November 21, 2013, 04:38:05 PM »
I prefer the Oxford dictionaries definition of 'sedative' thank you very much ferryman !

You shouldn't!

The British National Formulary is The Bible for all practising nurses ...

Offline Victoria

Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #17 on: November 21, 2013, 05:23:30 PM »
Oxford dictionary definition of sedative-

a drug taken for its calming or sleep-inducing effect

Feel free to re-write the Oxford dictionary should you like BUT Calpol does have a calming effect on illnesses like teething pains, high temperatures etc. in children and adolescents !

If you want to use that definition, every type of medication is a sedative because it will 'calm' the effects of whatever it's treating. Bit silly to stretch the meaning of words that far just for the sake of saving face, wouldn't you say?

I would.

ferryman

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Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #18 on: November 21, 2013, 05:59:15 PM »
My thoughts exactly ! Possibly derailment, once again ?

Derailment?

Go back to Colombostamy's post at just after 11.30 this morning on this thread.

It's important to slay canards where they arise, no matter how the canard relates to the opening post of a thread.

ferryman

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Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2013, 06:14:13 PM »
Hi ferryman, could you quote it please as I can't find the post !
P.S. it's Colombosstogey btw !


Quote from: Lace on Today at 11:34:04 AM

    In Amaral's book he talks about Calpol being a sedative and that we Brits give it to our children to help them sleep.


In my days it was Phenergan. I knew a few mums who would give their children phenergan when they were teething and I have known mums to give them phenergan just to get a good nights rest, so its not unusual well it wasnt then lol. I hasten to add I did it once for teething and it had the opposite effect on my baby it made her wide awake lol.

ferryman

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Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2013, 06:41:37 PM »
Under what circumstances do you claim that colombosstogeys' post was a canard ?

The canard is the suggestion that paracetamol is a sedative.

And the strawman argument is your post above.

ferryman

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Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2013, 07:05:30 PM »
Again it is your inability to read the written word which has once again tripped you up !
The poster called 'Lace' introduced the word 'Calpol' into the debate, colombosstogey merely replied with a 'real life' experience of the use of a pre-Calpol product called Phenergan !
Do please keep up ferryman !

Have you understood the fact that calpol is not a sedative?

ferryman

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Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2013, 07:16:06 PM »
Do you understand the Oxford dictionary definition of the word 'sedative' ?

Why do you regard a dictionary definition as more reliable than the publication on drugs used by all trained nurses in Britain?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2013, 07:16:56 PM »
Oxford dictionary definition of sedative-

a drug taken for its calming or sleep-inducing effect

Feel free to re-write the Oxford dictionary should you like BUT Calpol does have a calming effect on illnesses like teething pains, high temperatures etc. in children and adolescents !

Sedatives produce sedation...conscious sedation..sedation isn't sleep..

ferryman

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Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2013, 07:24:57 PM »
Sedatives produce sedation...conscious sedation..sedation isn't sleep..

Bang on right ...

ferryman

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Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2013, 07:37:37 PM »
The Oxford dictionary on line definition:

 noun (plural same or paracetamols)
[mass noun] British

    a synthetic compound used as a drug to relieve and reduce fever, usually taken in tablet form.
        Alternative name: para-acetylaminophenol; chemical formula: C8H9NO2. Compare with acetaminophen


Half right.

It is used to treat pyrexia or lower high temperatures.

It is also used as a mild pain-reliever.

But the Oxford dictionary says nothing the drug being a 'sedative'.

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/paracetamol

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2013, 07:38:15 PM »
That is exactly the point I made, albeit that some posters on this forum (who should know better) tried to derail the original thread by suggesting that Goncalo Amaral was suggesting the use of Calpol as a sleep inducing sedative !
I merely pointed out an alternative dictionary definition of the word !
Simple as !

 Calpol is not a sedative and has no sedative effects

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2013, 07:44:26 PM »

sed•a•tive (ˈsɛd ə tɪv)

adj.
1. tending to calm or soothe.
2. assuaging pain or allaying irritability or excitement.

Calpol could very easily be described as a sedative under the dictionary reference highlighted above, this was possibly the context in which Goncalo Amaral was referencing !

 I would certainly disagree with that definition as many sedatives have no analgesic(pain assuaging)  properties whatsoever

ferryman

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Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #28 on: November 21, 2013, 07:51:25 PM »
I would certainly disagree with that definition as many sedatives have no analgesic(pain assuaging)  properties whatsoever

Also strange that a definition in (presumably) a paper edition of the dictionary somehow evaded the on-line version.

I'm sure there's a reason ...

stephen25000

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Re: Was Calpol in 2007 really a sedative?
« Reply #29 on: November 21, 2013, 07:52:41 PM »
I would certainly disagree with that definition as many sedatives have no analgesic(pain assuaging)  properties whatsoever

Are you an expert in pharmacology or medicine ?