Why People who suspect the McCanns get so angry at People who do not.

[Eleanor]

It is in your remit to ask as to the veracity of the offending item !

Que?

[slartibartfast]

Cite for human bones in the same area please.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_child_abuse_investigation_2008

By the end of the excavations and investigations at Haut de la Garenne in July 2008,[4] police had sifted over 150 tonnes of earth. 65 human milk teeth were found, coming from between 10 to 65 individuals aged between 6–12 years and generally seeming to have been shed naturally. Discounting a large quantity of animal bones, only three bone fragments (the largest 25 mm = 1 inch long) were identified as possibly human; two of them have been dated to a range from 1470 to 1650 and the other 1650 to 1950.[9]

[Albertini]

.... moderated ...  None of us hate Portugal.  Some of us even like it.

But never mind.  There won't be any more stitch ups or beatings to gain confessions.  Those days are done.

Such a pity about Madeleine.

For someone who claims just a few posts ago they're all about kindness  and then in her next post tells someone to mind their own business and then has a no doubt offensive or abusive post moderated seems kind of hypocritical to me.

[Albertini]

You pay far too much attention to the word of Mr Grime ...

Righto so please can you provide your credentials in the field of canine search assets which gives you the authority to demean and libel grime in every thread where his name comes up.

Please provide details of your studies in this area, along with any professional qualifications and accreditations you hold.

Note: searching Google does not count

[Lace]

No

Pig meat treated for human consumption is entirely different to decaying pig meat that Eddie was trained on......the 1cm cube training exercise was obviously using the latter, Id imagne for the purposes of detecting totally burnt bodies (not burnt sausages eg)

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/VOLUME_IXprocesso_2266.jpg

If it were not the case Eddie would have reacted to meat based foods all the time, which Mr Grime says does not happen

There Montclair, link......

Burnt pig meat is burnt pig meat,  whether decaying or notl.

So if someone killed someone and the body was decomposing,   they then thought they would set fire to the house,  the dog wouldn't alert to the body?

[Redblossom]

Burnt pig meat is burnt pig meat,  whether decaying or notl.

So if someone killed someone and the body was decomposing,   they then thought they would set fire to the house,  the dog wouldn't alert to the body?

???

Yes  its would

And no, a decayng pig is not the same as one  processed into food

The initial training of the dog was conducted using human blood and
stil born decomposing piglets. The importance of this is that the dog is
introduced to the scent of a decomposing body NOT FOODSTUFF. This
ensures that the dog disregards the 'bacon sandwich' and 'kebab' etc that is
ever present in the background environment. Therefore the dog would
remain efficient searching for a cadaver in a café where the clientele were sat
eating bacon sandwiches. He has additionally trained exclusively using
human remains in the U.S.A. in association with the F.B.I.

You posted the quote yourself earlier! Not sure what the problem is, but no, Eddie does not alert to food.

Be a bit pointless, wouldnt it.....

[AnneGuedes]

Burnt pig meat is burnt pig meat,  whether decaying or notl.

So if someone killed someone and the body was decomposing,   they then thought they would set fire to the house,  the dog wouldn't alert to the body?

In English you have two different words : pig and pork. You've never seen a pork in a farm, have you ?

[AnneGuedes]

The initial training of the dog was conducted using human blood and
stil born decomposing piglets.

And then the dog is trained to discard decomposing pig's scent, a task which is favoured by the actual search and find of human remains.

[Rogerandout]

Could you please give the reference for this "quote".

All I can say is that those who criticise the dogs would be praising their amazing skills if they had only reacted to Robert Murat's houses, car and other objects relating to him.

http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES_PERSONAL.htm

[Rogerandout]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_child_abuse_investigation_2008

Were they in the same area as the skullcoconut.

[Eleanor]

The point with Pigs is that it as to be uneviscerated.  Otherwise there would be no comparison to a dead human body. 
Do we know that Mr. Grime actually did this?  Or was he just grand standing?
Personally, I don't care.

[pinkblossoms]

Are any of the threads on here ever on topic,its very confusing to follow any of them,its like a bag pick a mix.

[Lace]

In English you have two different words : pig and pork. You've never seen a pork in a farm, have you ?

I have never seen a beef in a farm either Anne,  but pig meat burned is the same as human meat burned,  the dog wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

[Lace]

???

Yes  its would

And no, a decayng pig is not the same as one  processed into food

The initial training of the dog was conducted using human blood and
stil born decomposing piglets. The importance of this is that the dog is
introduced to the scent of a decomposing body NOT FOODSTUFF. This
ensures that the dog disregards the 'bacon sandwich' and 'kebab' etc that is
ever present in the background environment. Therefore the dog would
remain efficient searching for a cadaver in a café where the clientele were sat
eating bacon sandwiches. He has additionally trained exclusively using
human remains in the U.S.A. in association with the F.B.I.

You posted the quote yourself earlier! Not sure what the problem is, but no, Eddie does not alert to food.

Be a bit pointless, wouldnt it.....

I can understand bacon, sausages,  ham,  but not a chunk of pig meat,  that would be the same as human meat when burnt.    So Grime introduces decomposing pig meat,   but what if a body had been decomposing before it was burnt?

[Redblossom]

I can understand bacon, sausages,  ham,  but not a chunk of pig meat,  that would be the same as human meat when burnt.    So Grime introduces decomposing pig meat,   but what if a body had been decomposing before it was burnt?

The dog would react in either case, sorry, but I still dont understand what point you are tryng to make.....if it is , apologies if second guessing wrongly,that the dog might be reacting to burnt pig, then Ive never heard of any burnt pigs around any missing person case the dog has worked on
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