Front Door to Mccanns Apartment Unlocked....Why?

[Lyall]

They were told in English but they have no idea what was written down in Portuguese..no idea whatsoever.... the importance of this is obviously lost on you...legally the statements are totally worthless...they should have at least been recorded...very poor police practice by the pj

Davel, do they say the front door and children's bedroom window were locked in their book?

[Mr Gray]

Davel, do they say the front door and children's bedroom window were locked in their book?

I haven't read the book in its entirety but I think the translators  made errors re front doors and patio doors

[Redblossom]

Kate devotes just three paragraphs in the 400+ page book to this most crucial of issues >@@(*&)

I noticed...she also said them leaving the kids alone was the least of their concerns...or something along those lines....whether it was legally  responsible or not, i will have to dig the quote out from the book

[Mr Gray]

I noticed...she also said them leaving the kids alone was the least of their concerns...

 As thousands of british couples have done the same, I don't see a problem with this statement

[Redblossom]

Toddlers can indeed climb out of cots if they wish to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnTmKHw61P8 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sPo-af9vKk and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo1-TdRGEyk and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybJRToM6tB4 (and others)

LOL thats so funny CPN......
 

and yes, normal

[AnneGuedes]

They were told in English but they have no idea what was written down in Portuguese..no idea whatsoever.... the importance of this is obviously lost on you...legally the statements are totally worthless...they should have at least been recorded...very poor police practice by the pj

You are accusing the translator, without evidence, of a misdemeanor. Whether you like it or not, this is an obnoxious defamation, because you don't give a chance to the translator (the same for both McCanns) to defend herself.
Besides this is an anonymous accusation, all reasons to be proud of yourself !

[Redblossom]

Bianca, the troll toilets and exit are  that way, >>>>>>>>>silly boring moo, go watch corrie or something
 

[Mr Gray]

You are accusing the translator, without evidence, of a misdemeanor. Whether you like it or not, this is an obnoxious defamation, because you don't give a chance to the translator (the same for both McCanns) to defend herself.
Besides this is an anonymous accusation, all reasons to be proud of yourself !

 No I am not..it could be totally unintentional... I have seen the standard of some of your translations if thats anything to go by...the translated statements are legally worthless...would you like to addresss that point..
and as for defamations...what are the McCannns being accused of on this forum

[AnneGuedes]

Hi Red,
Is there a difference between a 'locked' door and a door on a 'night latch' ?
I'm not familiar with the locking mechanisms on the front door of apt. 5A, just wondering if it had a 'close behind you' latch mechanism and then an extra 'deadlock' mechanism for additional security ?

It has a latch inside that you can move to get out if the door hasn't been locked with a key.

[Redblossom]

You are accusing the translator, without evidence, of a misdemeanor. Whether you like it or not, this is an obnoxious defamation, because you don't give a chance to the translator (the same for both McCanns) to defend herself.
Besides this is an anonymous accusation, all reasons to be proud of yourself !

Thoroughly Predictable though isnt it......to blame anyone and everyone.........

front and back doors mixed up in translation
 

only the back door, ie patio was never locked, couldnt be locked if they were using it...so no errors, locked door refers to front door

[Lyall]

No I am not..it could be totally unintentional... I have seen the standard of some of your translations if thats anything to go by...the translated statements are legally worthless...would you like to addresss that point..
and as for defamations...what are the McCannns being accused of on this forum

I think we're careful not to make any specific accusations tbh. You may be assuming things that aren't actually being said.

It's not a crime to state the story doesn't make sense, or that the reputation management campaign appalls people etc.

[AnneGuedes]

Thoroughly Predictable though isnt it......to blame anyone and everyone.........

front and back doors mixed up in translation
 

only the back door, ie patio was never locked, couldnt be locked if they were using it...so no errors, locked door refers to front door

The issue is did they really leave the door-window slightly open or did they only say they did? I've a feeling it was just saying. Why would Mrs McCann wonder aloud at the Tapas table whether they should leave the door-window for Madeleine to get out or not ? They obviously (cf. Mrs Fenn) checked less than they said and it doesn't make much sense they'd leave the door-window  open for about one hour.

[Redblossom]

The issue is did they really leave the door-window slightly open or did they only say they did? I've a feeling it was just saying. Why would Mrs McCann wonder aloud at the Tapas table whether they should leave the door-window for Madeleine to get out or not ? They obviously (cf. Mrs Fenn) checked less than they said and it doesn't make much sense they'd leave the door-window  open for about one hour.

If they didnt leave the patio door open that means oldfield was lying, also obrien when he says he went through it on sunday night to check in on the mccann kids.....oh that was the night they said they locked it!!!

Franky I dont believe at least half of what they say.....if they cant make anything make sense it means its nonsense

[Albertini]

If they didnt leave the patio door open that means oldfield was lying, also obrien when he says he went through it on sunday night to check in on the mccann kids.....oh that was the night they said they locked it!!!

Franky I dont believe at least half of what they say.....if they cant make anything make sense it means its nonsense

And as we know Rachel Oldfield stated that when she walked past the McCann's apartment after the McCann's had left she saw the patio shutter down.

When was it opened and by whom?

[AnneGuedes]

If they didnt leave the patio door open that means oldfield was lying, also obrien when he says he went through it on sunday night to check in on the mccann kids.....oh that was the night they said they locked it!!!

Franky I dont believe at least half of what they say.....if they cant make anything make sense it means its nonsense

If something is sure it is that Mr Oldfield never entered (he might have listened to the shutters. Then he couldn't because of Tannerman, now he can because of Innocentman), his narrative is full of too many rough errors.
If something is sure too it is that Mr O'Brien didn't enter as well, at least on Sunday. He stated he checked also the Oldfield child, but Mr Oldfield was there, being sick !