Does Eddie alert to Pork/Pig/Pig Blood? Martin Grime's Statements.

[ferryman]

A missing man in California (video of search with 3 dogs and an excavator on youtube).
3 dogs all indicate the same small area of land, excavator digs and 5 feet down finds
"piles and piles bags and bags of meat big roasts and hunks of meat"
Meat is removed and doesn't interest the dogs, who continue to indicate the same place.
Excavator digs a further 5 feet down, and bullseye.

The meat was probably pork.

You beat me to it, Pegasus ....

ETA: Lace, sorry ...

[Redblossom]

It means the fact that Eddie was trained using human bodies is immaterial.

Immaterial to what? And why? Youre still not painting a full picture about what you mean

[Lace]

Immaterial to what? And why? Youre still not painting a full picture about what you mean

Immaterial to the fact that Eddie was trained using human bodies.

Sorry would like to continue this discussion but going out this evening.

[icabodcrane]

Had Madeleine been found alive,  then the relentless  questioning of the cadaver dog alert would make sense   ...  in those circumstances we might reasonably have asked ourselves    "So what  was he barking at then  ?  What could have happened to make a dog who barks when he detects the scent of a dead body,  bark in the McCanns' apartment ?" 

As it is,  the ongoing search  for evermore obscure explanations smacks of desperation

Madeleine was  not  found alive,  (  sadly ) ...  nor has has she ever  been seen since

Therefore, it remains the case that  a possible  (  or even likely )  explanation  for  a dog,  who barks when he detects the scent of a dead body,  barking in the very  place where she was last seen alive ,  is that the disappeared  child  died there 

That possibility cannot be dismissed

[ferryman]

Immaterial to what? And why? Youre still not painting a full picture about what you mean

I (vehemently) dispute claims about Eddie's training (on human remains)

[Lace]

The meat was probably pork.

You beat me to it, Pegasus ....

ETA: Lace, sorry ...

1wasn't Eddie though was it?    Eddie alerted to Pork.

Going out speak again.

[ferryman]

Had Madeleine been found alive,  then the relentless  questioning of the cadaver dog alert would make sense   ...  in thiose circumstances we might reasonably have asked ourseleves    "So what  was he barking at then  ?  What could have happened to make a dog who barks when he detects the scent of a dead body,  bark in the McCanns' apartment ?" 

As it is,  the ongoing search  for evermore obscure explanations smacks of desperation

Madeleine was  not  found alive,  (  sadly ) ...  nor has has she ever  been seen since

Therefore, it remains the case that  a possible  (  or even likely )  explanation  for  a dog,  who barks when he detects the scent of a dead body,  barking in the very  place where she was last seen alive ,  is that the disappeared  child  died there 

That possibility cannot be dismissed

Nope ...

[Mr Gray]

Had Madeleine been found alive,  then the relentless  questioning of the cadaver dog alert would make sense   ...  in thiose circumstances we might reasonably have asked ourseleves    "So what  was he barking at then  ?  What could have happened to make a dog who barks when he detects the scent of a dead body,  bark in the McCanns' apartment ?" 

As it is,  the ongoing search  for evermore obscure explanations smacks of desperation

Madeleine was  not  found alive,  (  sadly ) ...  nor has has she ever  been seen since

Therefore, it remains the case that  a possible  (  or even likely )  explanation  for  a dog,  who barks when he detects the scent of a dead body,  barking in the very  place where she was last seen alive ,  is that the disappeared  child  died there 

That possibility cannot be dismissed

As I have said that possibility cannot be dismissed even if a dog didnt bark

[Redblossom]

Immaterial to the fact that Eddie was trained using human bodies.

Sorry would like to continue this discussion but going out this evening.

It seems our brainwaves are on different planets so doubt could continue anyway, have a nice time
 

if anyone else knows what Lace is trying to say  pls explain

[Redblossom]

Had Madeleine been found alive,  then the relentless  questioning of the cadaver dog alert would make sense   ...  in those circumstances we might reasonably have asked ourselves    "So what  was he barking at then  ?  What could have happened to make a dog who barks when he detects the scent of a dead body,  bark in the McCanns' apartment ?" 

As it is,  the ongoing search  for evermore obscure explanations smacks of desperation

Madeleine was  not  found alive,  (  sadly ) ...  nor has has she ever  been seen since

Therefore, it remains the case that  a possible  (  or even likely )  explanation  for  a dog,  who barks when he detects the scent of a dead body,  barking in the very  place where she was last seen alive ,  is that the disappeared  child  died there 

That possibility cannot be dismissed

Doesnt it just......a half decent alternative explanation might be worthy of thought and discussion......but some  take the biscuit....reacting to a common food is not really an option

[Apostate]

Maybe of all the people in the Ocean Club only the McCanns had had contact with Pork/Pig/Pig Blood - and it's pure coincidence that they happen to be the ones who have had a child vanish into thin air.

[Redblossom]

A missing man in California (video of search with 3 dogs and an excavator on youtube).
3 dogs all indicate the same small area of land, excavator digs and 5 feet down finds
"piles and piles bags and bags of meat big roasts and hunks of meat"
Meat is removed and doesn't interest the dogs, who continue to indicate the same place.
Excavator digs a further 5 feet down, and bullseye.

Have you got a reference for this? Pls...it rings a vague bell but I cant remember enough to do a search

[icabodcrane]

As I have said that possibility cannot be dismissed even if a dog didnt bark

We must acknowledge the possible link between the child disappearing and the cadaver dog barking in the place where she was last seen alive

[Wonderfulspam]

Had Madeleine been found alive,  then the relentless  questioning of the cadaver dog alert would make sense   ...  in those circumstances we might reasonably have asked ourselves    "So what  was he barking at then  ?  What could have happened to make a dog who barks when he detects the scent of a dead body,  bark in the McCanns' apartment ?" 

As it is,  the ongoing search  for evermore obscure explanations smacks of desperation

Madeleine was  not  found alive,  (  sadly ) ...  nor has has she ever  been seen since

Therefore, it remains the case that  a possible  (  or even likely )  explanation  for  a dog,  who barks when he detects the scent of a dead body,  barking in the very  place where she was last seen alive ,  is that the disappeared  child  died there 

That possibility cannot be dismissed

I could understand dismissing 1 or 2 alerts from a cadaver dog as being potentially false or misinterpreted.

But when it is 3, 4 , 5 alerts to areas/objects associated with the child it is too much to ignore.

 “One coincidence, two coincidences – maybe they’re still coincidences. Any more than that and it stops being coincidence.

[Redblossom]

Have you got a reference for this? Pls...it rings a vague bell but I cant remember enough to do a search

Its ok Pegasus, I found reference to it though not the original source

From 24 secs

Sooo.....the dogs were alerting.....ground was dug......dumped meat found, dogs did not take interest... continued to alert...human remains found