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Offline Rogerandout

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Re: Does Eddie alert to Pork/Pig/Pig Blood? Martin Grime's Statements.
« Reply #45 on: December 05, 2013, 08:32:48 PM »
So no real discussion about the contradictions in Grime's testimony then.
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« Reply #46 on: December 05, 2013, 08:34:29 PM »
I am quite happy to accept that the McCanns harmed Madeleine if proof is found.

What I am not happy with is unscientific and ridiculous interpretation of dog alerts which are contrary to the serious published research on their reliability.

So  ...edited out...  do you believe the dogs alerted to the scent of death irrespective of who caused it? Because to accept that premise does not automatically and exclusively implicate any guilt to the mccanns.

If the answer is "no" my follow on question is this:

If you were about to board a plane and were advised not to get on as a trained dog had alerted to a bomb being on board would you still be happy to get on that plane and dismiss the request as information based on " ridiculous and unscientific interpretations"?
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Re: Does Eddie alert to Pork/Pig/Pig Blood? Martin Grime's Statements.
« Reply #47 on: December 05, 2013, 08:36:03 PM »
There were human remains there were there not?

nothing confirmed as far as I am aware

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Re: Does Eddie alert to Pork/Pig/Pig Blood? Martin Grime's Statements.
« Reply #48 on: December 05, 2013, 08:36:32 PM »
So no real discussion about the contradictions in Grime's testimony then.

We could talk about pigs until the cows come home. It won't bring Maddie back.
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Re: Does Eddie alert to Pork/Pig/Pig Blood? Martin Grime's Statements.
« Reply #49 on: December 05, 2013, 08:36:45 PM »
There were human remains there were there not?

Yes plenty, and the story about eddie alerting to a coconut was an outright pathetic lie
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qualified anthropologist versus unqualified someone or other.. and the sample the qualified anthropologist found and examined was NOT the sample returned  it was switched!

See video in video library on exclusivd eddie alerts in jersey and my response there with footage of the detective in charge at the time, shocking viewing re corruption


Poor Eddie, he will be accused of alerting to sherbert bon bons next found near a missing childs cot! maybe not anymore, hes dead now, but his successor....

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Re: Does Eddie alert to Pork/Pig/Pig Blood? Martin Grime's Statements.
« Reply #50 on: December 05, 2013, 08:37:27 PM »
So  ...... do you believe the dogs alerted to the scent of death irrespective of who caused it? Because to accept that premise does not automatically and exclusively implicate any guilt to the mccanns.

If the answer is "no" my follow on question is this:

If you were about to board a plane and were advised not to get on as a trained dog had alerted to a bomb being on board would you still be happy to get on that plane and dismiss the request as information based on " ridiculous and unscientific interpretations"?

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I would take the dogs alert as an indication, but of no bomb was found, then I would board the plane.

Similarly the reactions of Eddie and Keela are indications, but as no forensicx evidence was found, we can safely and legally assume that the alerts are not substantive evidence. Mr Grime says this repeatedly!
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Re: Does Eddie alert to Pork/Pig/Pig Blood? Martin Grime's Statements.
« Reply #51 on: December 05, 2013, 08:37:37 PM »
So  .......  do you believe the dogs alerted to the scent of death irrespective of who caused it? Because to accept that premise does not automatically and exclusively implicate any guilt to the mccanns.

If the answer is "no" my follow on question is this:

If you were about to board a plane and were advised not to get on as a trained dog had alerted to a bomb being on board would you still be happy to get on that plane and dismiss the request as information based on " ridiculous and unscientific interpretations"?

Good question.  8@??)(
« Last Edit: December 05, 2013, 09:54:09 PM by John »

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Re: Does Eddie alert to Pork/Pig/Pig Blood? Martin Grime's Statements.
« Reply #52 on: December 05, 2013, 08:43:05 PM »
Yes plenty, and the story about eddie alerting to a coconut was an outright pathetic lie
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See video in video library on exclusivd eddie alerts in jersey and my response there with footage of the detective in charge at the time, shocking viewing re corruption


Poor Eddie, he will be accused of alerting to sherbert bon bons next found near a missing childs cot! maybe not anymore, hes dead now, but his successor....

There seems to be a major difference of opinion between well qualified people about whether or not it was bone. Best answer is that it has neither been confirmed nor disproven- could be either, but is not convincing evidence.
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Re: Does Eddie alert to Pork/Pig/Pig Blood? Martin Grime's Statements.
« Reply #53 on: December 05, 2013, 08:43:51 PM »
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« Reply #54 on: December 05, 2013, 08:45:53 PM »
See my Good Answer.

No it wasn't.

Completely irrelevant as per usual.

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Re: Does Eddie alert to Pork/Pig/Pig Blood? Martin Grime's Statements.
« Reply #55 on: December 05, 2013, 08:50:23 PM »
So  .......  do you believe the dogs alerted to the scent of death irrespective of who caused it? Because to accept that premise does not automatically and exclusively implicate any guilt to the mccanns.

If the answer is "no" my follow on question is this:

If you were about to board a plane and were advised not to get on as a trained dog had alerted to a bomb being on board would you still be happy to get on that plane and dismiss the request as information based on " ridiculous and unscientific interpretations"?

Very poor post as you included the statement"you were advised not to get on"..that means there was confirmation from the handler ...


 a fairer  question would be....an explosives dog alerts on plane...despite an extensive search nothing  is found...the dog handler confirms that the alert is meaningless without physical evidence being found... I would be more than happy to board the plane
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Re: Does Eddie alert to Pork/Pig/Pig Blood? Martin Grime's Statements.
« Reply #56 on: December 05, 2013, 08:52:14 PM »
See my Good Answer.


see my better answer..of course there would be silly old folk who wouldn't understand and would be too frightened to get on the plane

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Re: Does Eddie alert to Pork/Pig/Pig Blood? Martin Grime's Statements.
« Reply #57 on: December 05, 2013, 09:38:01 PM »
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One of the most spectacular exercises occurred when one of the Anthropologists brought a vial of sand back that she had removed from the tomb of a mummy in Egypt. We put this vial on a beach, below the sand, and let Eddie off to look for it. The dog amazingly sought it out in a few minutes
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id157.html
But in some ancient egyptians tombs the person is accompanied by mummified animals, for example to provide meals in the afterlife, or the company of a favourite pet. Maybe that is what was signalled?   

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Re: Does Eddie alert to Pork/Pig/Pig Blood? Martin Grime's Statements.
« Reply #58 on: December 05, 2013, 09:43:05 PM »
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id157.html
But in some ancient egyptians tombs the person is accompanied by mummified animals, for example to provide meals in the afterlife, or the company of a favourite pet. Maybe that is what was signalled?
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sure, its now dead pet from 5a, brilliant
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Re: Does Eddie alert to Pork/Pig/Pig Blood? Martin Grime's Statements.
« Reply #59 on: December 05, 2013, 09:43:39 PM »
Human remains (pelvic cavity) 1:20

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Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.