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Offline Sherlock Holmes

Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #525 on: January 08, 2014, 04:18:17 AM »
I find it impossible to believe because no-one can come up with a credible explanation of how, when or where they hid her body - and how they moved it again 3 weeks later.      Or even explain why 9 intelligent people, all apparently colluding together, came up with such a complicated,  imbecilic plan as the one being alleged.     

That just makes no sense at all - when it is so obvious that there were far simpler ways of achieving the same ends.    Only idiots without a single brain cell amongst  them would have failed to realise that fact when they were making their 'plans'.    Plans, which incidentally were so complicated and convoluted it would have taken a month of Sundays of practise to remember all the details of what 9 people had to do and say.   

 

This is one of my problems as well, Benice. No credible explanations whatsoever.

stephen25000

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Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #526 on: January 08, 2014, 08:20:41 AM »
It was interesting that one of the experts on "The Lying Game" said that the McCanns are 100% innocent.

Hardly surprising.

One image at the start  of madeleine's disappearance,and one opinion. She admitted people can be fooled by those who lie, including psychologists.

However, a search of the net will reveal other forensic psychologists with other points of view as regards the Mccanns. There is a plethora of interviews with them which are  worth viewing showing their verbal and non-verbal responses.

However, people who support the Mccanns will say they haven't lied, whilst those who don't believe them will of course think the reverse, and that won't change.

P.S. The program was a Murdoch production.
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Offline Eleanor

Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #527 on: January 08, 2014, 08:43:57 AM »
Blimey, it took you long enough. I swear, drink too much, and I love pugs.

*Hint*   I'm not Princess Michael of Kent.         8((()*/

OMG, you're not me, are you?

Offline Victoria

Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #528 on: January 08, 2014, 09:36:20 AM »
Hardly surprising.

One image at the start  of madeleine's disappearance,and one opinion. She admitted people can be fooled by those who lie, including psychologists.

However, a search of the net will reveal other forensic psychologists with other points of view as regards the Mccanns. There is a plethora of interviews with them which are  worth viewing showing their verbal and non-verbal responses.

However, people who support the Mccanns will say they haven't lied, whilst those who don't believe them will of course think the reverse, and that won't change.

P.S. The program was a Murdoch production.

These other 'forensic psychologists' - do they have anything like the same professional qualifications and reputation?

stephen25000

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Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #529 on: January 08, 2014, 09:49:50 AM »
These other 'forensic psychologists' - do they have anything like the same professional qualifications and reputation?

Do some research as I did on google and make your own judgement .

There are varying degrees of interpretation.

Offline Victoria

Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #530 on: January 08, 2014, 09:51:38 AM »
Do some research as I did on google and make your own judgement .

There are varying degrees of interpretation.

I've made my own judgement.

stephen25000

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Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #531 on: January 08, 2014, 09:56:08 AM »
I've made my own judgement.


I wouldn't expect anything less.

I didn't agree for example with a certain Dr. Christian Lüdke.

Offline Benice

Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #532 on: January 08, 2014, 10:05:04 AM »
Hardly surprising.

One image at the start  of madeleine's disappearance,and one opinion. She admitted people can be fooled by those who lie, including psychologists.

However, a search of the net will reveal other forensic psychologists with other points of view as regards the Mccanns. There is a plethora of interviews with them which are  worth viewing showing their verbal and non-verbal responses.

However, people who support the Mccanns will say they haven't lied, whilst those who don't believe them will of course think the reverse, and that won't change.

P.S. The program was a Murdoch production.

You seem to be inferring that Dr Leal only studied one image?    She is a highly qualified expert in her field -  do you really think she would publically make such an unequivocal assessment claiming that the McCanns were 100% innocent on the strength of one image?   
 
What has Murdoch got to do with Dr Leal?   Please elucidate.




The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #533 on: January 08, 2014, 10:08:33 AM »
You seem to be inferring that Dr Leal only studied one image?    She is a highly qualified expert in her field -  do you really think she would publically make such an unequivocal assessment claiming that the McCanns were 100% innocent on the strength of one image?   
 
What has Murdoch got to do with Dr Leal?   Please elucidate.

Other experts have given different opinions.

One 'expert' b y themselves is insufficient to draw any conclusions.

As to the Murdoch connection, extremely well known.

Did you also really expect the mccanns top be called liars on TV on a major network with the threat of libel ???

Offline Benice

Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #534 on: January 08, 2014, 10:15:19 AM »
Other experts have given different opinions.

One 'expert' b y themselves is insufficient to draw any conclusions.

As to the Murdoch connection, extremely well known.

Did you also really expect the mccanns top be called liars on TV on a major network with the threat of libel ???

I have no idea what the Murdoch connection is - as you appear to know all the details  - would you please explain?

No-one forced Dr Leal to give her assessment.    If she had any doubts then she simply would not have mentioned the McCanns at all in the programme.    That's just common sense.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline jassi

Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #535 on: January 08, 2014, 10:18:33 AM »
Other experts have given different opinions.

One 'expert' b y themselves is insufficient to draw any conclusions.

As to the Murdoch connection, extremely well known.

Did you also really expect the mccanns top be called liars on TV on a major network with the threat of libel ???

 @)(++(*  Not if anyone has an ounce of sense.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

stephen25000

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Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #536 on: January 08, 2014, 10:28:55 AM »
I have no idea what the Murdoch connection is - as you appear to know all the details  - would you please explain?

No-one forced Dr Leal to give her assessment.    If she had any doubts then she simply would not have mentioned the McCanns at all in the programme.    That's just common sense.


Is that the same 'common sense' displayed by the Mccanns in leaving their children alone, unprotected and in an unlocked apartment ?

Offline Benice

Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #537 on: January 08, 2014, 10:54:11 AM »

Is that the same 'common sense' displayed by the Mccanns in leaving their children alone, unprotected and in an unlocked apartment ?

Oh dear - the usual diversion tactics.   That particular stick must be worn down to the size of pencil stub by now Stephen. 

Can you give me clue as to what the Murdoch connection is please?   You did make a point of mentioning Murdoch so you must think it's relevant.

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The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Redblossom

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Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #538 on: January 08, 2014, 11:01:22 AM »


Can you give me clue as to what the Murdoch connection is please?   You did make a point of mentioning Murdoch so you must think it's relevant.

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The TV company that made the programme, ie Shine
http://www.shinegroup.tv/people/elisabeth-murdoch


My only comment is why the Mccanns featured in it at all....



Estuarine

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Re: Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..
« Reply #539 on: January 08, 2014, 11:04:17 AM »
This is one of my problems as well, Benice. No credible explanations whatsoever.

I am neutral in the whole debate but tend to agree:
Why must the so called "Tapas 7" be anything other than what they appear to be at face value? In my book that is a typical group of slightly naive British tourists suddenly out of their depth in a foreign country where they were familiar with neither the language nor the culture.Prepared to do and say just about anything to cover their own backs in order to get home and never go back.
Furthermore I have never met 7 people in my life who I would trust enough to help me cover up anything.
(Before I get reams of abuse for "naive" anyone who has travelled abroad regularly other than on holiday and to holiday resorts will know what I mean any one who hasn't will not)