Statistically...what are the chances that Maddie was abducted..

[slartibartfast]

Absolutely not...you understand how to read the statistics but you don't understand how to apply them..thats probably why you have got things so wrong

No, he knows how to apply them.

[Mr Gray]

It is only the McCann's opinion that their daughter was abducted by a stranger. There is no evidence to support this theory. Whether the police believe them or not, I have no idea. I would like to believe that there minds are open which is what you would hope with a criminal investigation.

you have stated that the interpretation of the statistics is merely "your opinion". that's fine but dont you and icad pretend its fact

[Mr Gray]

No, he knows how to apply them.

hes just said its only his opinion...or did you miss that

[Mr Gray]

That is precisely the point.

No evidence of abduction and if there was no abduction.....................

Actually there is evidence of abduction but no proof...you always get that wrong

[stephen25000]

Actually there is evidence of abduction but no proof...you always get that wrong

What evidence davel ?

Be precise.

[AnneGuedes]

The shutters/window in Madeleine's bedroom were opened by someone - and it wasn't the McCanns or their friends.  Therefore it was a stranger.   
   

There's no evidence whatsoever of that and the police, even the best on the planet, bases its belief on facts, not on words for facts.

[Mr Gray]

What evidence davel ?

Be precise.

we have been through this many times..do you understand what evidence is? its not the same as proof

[stephen25000]

we have been through this many times..do you understand what evidence is? its not the same as proof

No davel, I understand perfectly well.

Now please adorn us all with evidence of abduction.

[Estuarine]

we have been through this many times..do you understand what evidence is? its not the same as proof

Strawmen notwithstanding you still lost the debate with j.rob squire. Best not flog a dead horse old chap its embarrassing to watch it.

[Mr Gray]

Strawmen notwithstanding you still lost the debate with j.rob squire. Best not flog a dead horse old chap its embarrassing to watch it.

not really..if you think I lost the debate when he admitted he wasn't quoting statistics but his own opinion then you haven't a clue.
He actually proved my point if you were able to understand the posts...obviously you dont

[Mr Gray]

No, the statistics do not apply to every case. A small minority of cases do not involve parents and you have highlighted some of these. The McCanns would like us to believe that Madeleine's disappearance falls into this small category. But, unfortunately, their actions and behaviours do not support this.

There is no evidence for a stranger abduction in Madeleine's case, and there is incriminating behaviour from the McCanns and their friends.

Therefore, in my opinion, the disappearance of Madeleine is likely to fall into the 84% statistic.

 There you are...a small minority do not involve the parents...it is my opinion and SY that this applies to the McCanns and no one can prove me wrong

[Mr Gray]

Shall we compare the behaviour of the mccanns who on several successive nights went to booze and eat, with the Needhams behaviour?

So Benice, what do you think happened to Ben ?

Was it :

Mr. Spotty; Mr. No Face ; Mr. Swarthy Faced Johnny Foreigner; Mr. or  Mrs. Burglar; or perhaps Mr. Sardine Muncher ?
  the McCanns behaviour makes an abduction more likely
The field is yours. 

[slartibartfast]

not really..if you think I lost the debate when he admitted he wasn't quoting statistics but his own opinion then you haven't a clue.
He actually proved my point if you were able to understand the posts...obviously you dont

He used Kate's statistics?

In the case of a missing child with no further evidence the probability is that the parents or family is involved in 84 out of  100 cases.

Simple really.

[Cariad]

Actually there is evidence of abduction but no proof...you always get that wrong

And the evidence for abduction is?....

[slartibartfast]

Actually there is evidence of abduction but no proof...you always get that wrong

Just like the evidence of the dogs.