A child abducted yet nobody thought to phone the police immediately?

[Wonderfulspam]

Window open, child missing, we are not rich = it was paedos wot dunnit, but lets not bother even trying to call the police.

Nonsense.

[faithlilly]

Of course after the initial shock and the search, they would unhappily suspect/ know stolen.  The window and shutters were open.  Someone had been there. 

The people who steal oretty little blond girls are either
Kidnappers for ramsome
or
Paedophiles {or sex traffickers, also for paedophiles]

As the Mccanns were not rich, they could rule the first out

This is what Graham McKenzie heard :

'He said something along the lines of there being Paedophile gangs in Portugal and that they had abducted Madeleine. I was so shocked by this, having originally thought that she had just wandered off.'

Paedophile gangs ?  Now unless Mr McCann had absolute knowledge that paedophile GANGS did indeed operate in a sleepy village like PDL why was he terrifying his sister but relaying to her such a unproven assumption barely an hour after Madeleine had been discovered missing ?

[sadie]

Window open, child missing, we are not rich = it was paedos wot dunnit, but lets not bother even trying to call the police.

Nonsense.

Spammy, when are you going to give it a rest.  That is about the twentieth time, virtually in a row, that you have said the same inane thing. 


They did call the police via their agents, the first being a friend and also a sensible man, a doctor.   

OC Receptioin badly let them down initially. 


 


The police were later called when Gerry personally went to ask reception to call them again

[Matthew Wyse]

Could it be that their anxiety over their inadequate and sloppy child care arrangements presented a problem for them from the outset and it was this and this alone which prevented them from immediately contacting the police???

[Wonderfulspam]

Spammy, when are you going to give it a rest.  That is about the twentieth time, virtually in a row, that you have said the same inane thing. 


They did call the police via their agents, the first being a friend and also a sensible man, a doctor.   

OC Receptioin badly let them down initially. 


 


The police were later called when Gerry personally went to ask reception to call them again

Kate didn't phone the police, neither did Gerry.

There is nothing untrue about that statement.

[Benice]

This is what Graham McKenzie heard :

'He said something along the lines of there being Paedophile gangs in Portugal and that they had abducted Madeleine. I was so shocked by this, having originally thought that she had just wandered off.'

Paedophile gangs ?  Now unless Mr McCann had absolute knowledge that paedophile GANGS did indeed operate in a sleepy village like PDL why was he terrifying his sister but relaying to her such a unproven assumption barely an hour after Madeleine had been discovered missing ?

You are ignoring the fact that Graham McKenzie said Gerry was talking  ''along the lines of....''  and so that was his own interpretation of what Gerry had said -  and certainly not Gerry's own words.

However, what is strange about Gerry thinking his daughter may have been taken by paedaphiles?    That is usually what has happened to little girls who are abducted by strangers.      It was the first thing I thought of when I first heard the news - and so did everyone else who I spoke to about it.

[Angelo222]

Few people have travelled to Europe and PT as often as we have, unless they have properties out there.

Most people have no idea what the number of the police is.

My hubby is extremely well travelled and a very clever man, representing his country at senior Professional level, ...... but neither he nor I knew the number for the Police.

Even if they perchance knew the number, they didn't speak PT.

Anyone who frequents hotels knows that in emergency one contacts Reception.

Reception speak both languages fluently , have local knowledge and are there to help the guest in emergency.  That is their job.

In an earlier thread, Gilet worked out exactly how far 5A was away from OC main reception  and IIRC it was less than 270 metres.  For a fit man it could be covered in well under a minute .... and he could be looking on the way there.

Excuse excuse excuses and more excuses.  A load of baloney Sadie.  I don't accept for a moment that seasoned travellers abroad don't know what the international emergency telephone number is and in any event all they needed to do was to ask a local, a waiter, another guest.

They failed to immediately phone police in a situation where urgency was a determining factor.  They failed Madeleine for the second time that night.

[faithlilly]

You are ignoring the fact that Graham McKenzie said Gerry was talking  ''along the lines of....''  and so that was his own interpretation of what Gerry had said -  and certainly not Gerry's own words.

However, what is strange about Gerry thinking his daughter may have been taken by paedaphiles?    That is usually what has happened to little girls who are abducted by strangers.      It was the first thing I thought of when I first heard the news - and so did everyone else who I spoke to about it.

Mr McKenzie was most specific about 'paedophile gangs '. Now I can understand that the McCanns may think Madeleine had been abducted by a paedophile but a paedophile gang ?

[Angelo222]

I could be wrong but the impression I get from having read all the staff statements is that the tapas group thought they were better than the ' dumb Portuguese'.  Does anyone else get that impression?

[faithlilly]

I could be wrong but the impression I get from having read all the staff statements is that the tapas group thought they were better than the ' dumb Portuguese'.  Does anyone else get that impression?

Absolutely Angelo.

[ferryman]

I could be wrong but the impression I get from having read all the staff statements is that the tapas group thought they were better than the ' dumb Portuguese'.  Does anyone else get that impression?

Not only do I not get that impression; I'm not aware of anything to even suggest it ...

[Brietta]

Unable to phone the police themselves

Did they actually, physically try ringing the police, themselves?

No, they didn't.

In the middle ages they had profound discussion about how many angels could dance on a pin head; the modern equivalent would appear to be discussion about how many phone calls it takes to get police to respond to a call reporting a missing child and whether or not a call from the parents makes the police arrive any sooner than the call from a responsible adult tasked with the responsibility.

If the parents had dashed off immediately to reception to make the call ~ the cry would be ~ "why weren't they out searching?" ~ whoops a minute; isn't that where we came in?

[stephen25000]

I could be wrong but the impression I get from having read all the staff statements is that the tapas group thought they were better than the ' dumb Portuguese'.  Does anyone else get that impression?

Absolutely Angelo.

There has always been a supercilious attitude amongst them.

Largely a case it seems of 'Doctors think they know best'.

[Angelo222]

Not only do I not get that impression; I'm not aware of anything to even suggest it ...

You obviously haven't read all the staff statements recently or you would see that they were given the cold shoulder when they offered to help.  Even poor old Mrs Fenn got a sharp rebuke.. 

[Wonderfulspam]

In the middle ages they had profound discussion about how many angels could dance on a pin head; the modern equivalent would appear to be discussion about how many phone calls it takes to get police to respond to a call reporting a missing child and whether or not a call from the parents makes the police arrive any sooner than the call from a responsible adult tasked with the responsibility.

If the parents had dashed off immediately to reception to make the call ~ the cry would be ~ "why weren't they out searching?" ~ whoops a minute; isn't that where we came in?

They didn't need to dash off to reception to phone the police, they had phones, which they were quite able to use, but they didn't even bother trying to phone the police themselves, did they?

Even though Kate knew straight away she'd, err, been taken, y'know (by paedophiles).

They've taken her!!

Call a priest!