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Redblossom

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Re: Latest reports claim the keys at OC had been stolen?
« Reply #75 on: February 12, 2014, 01:48:09 PM »
This guy hasn't only reported the strange individual, he was questioned about his own phone calls by PJ, meaning they had a reason to suspect him and he has left the job soon after the disappearance  (reason to suspect he's got other financial sources to live on.. and plus he's now bringing the lost keys to the surface..

And he did blame the co-worker, in a manipulative ways suggesting the co-worker was a strange character he did not like having around ( reason he left his job) and he was afraid of him ( reason he did not report the missing keys before)

Ok look forward to the arrest.....


Offline jassi

Re: Latest reports claim the keys at OC had been stolen?
« Reply #76 on: February 12, 2014, 01:56:40 PM »
Ok look forward to the arrest.....

Look out for it in the Mirror tomorrow.   @)(++(*
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Latest reports claim the keys at OC had been stolen?
« Reply #77 on: February 12, 2014, 02:04:59 PM »

I find it a little odd that the this missing keys story hasn't been leapt on by the other tabloid rags or featured on the TV news.

Has anyone seen it reported in any other papers?
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Lyall

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Re: Latest reports claim the keys at OC had been stolen?
« Reply #78 on: February 12, 2014, 02:06:14 PM »
I find it a little odd that the this missing keys story hasn't been leapt on by the other tabloid rags or featured on the TV news.

Has anyone seen it reported in any other papers?

Is that the James Murray story?

Estuarine

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Re: Latest reports claim the keys at OC had been stolen?
« Reply #79 on: February 12, 2014, 02:10:47 PM »
I find it a little odd that the this missing keys story hasn't been leapt on by the other tabloid rags or featured on the TV news.

Has anyone seen it reported in any other papers?
Extract from Archiving Report
I - Introduction
Before actually entering the appreciation of the present inquiry it is useful to take a summarised look at the enormous dimension of the inquiry which is constituted of 17 Volumes, with a global processing of approximately 4500 pages, 9 appendixes that are integrated by 55 Volumes, in which 12000 pages and other relevant pieces were gathered, analysed and treated; further 22 dossiers were constituted, with more than 5000 pages, concerning fanciful or senseless news, yet organised out of mere caution.


Maybe it has been looked at before and is in here  >@@(*&)

Offline jassi

Re: Latest reports claim the keys at OC had been stolen?
« Reply #80 on: February 12, 2014, 02:20:07 PM »
I find it a little odd that the this missing keys story hasn't been leapt on by the other tabloid rags or featured on the TV news.

Has anyone seen it reported in any other papers?

Perhaps even they recognise it as rubbish.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Fierljepper

Re: Latest reports claim the keys at OC had been stolen?
« Reply #81 on: February 12, 2014, 02:21:34 PM »
This guy hasn't only reported the strange individual, he was questioned about his own phone calls by PJ, meaning they had a reason to suspect him and he has left the job soon after the disappearance  (reason to suspect he's got other financial sources to live on.. and plus he's now bringing the lost keys to the surface..

And he did blame the co-worker, in a manipulative ways suggesting the co-worker was a strange character he did not like having around ( reason he left his job) and he was afraid of him ( reason he did not report the missing keys before)

Indeed Vixte. I really appreciate the logical way you try to connect the dots and the effort you put in to develop new conjectures that are underpinned by the hard and soft data points available. It is definitely not easy to create those consistent scenarios, but it typically is very easy to criticize them with an effortless one-liner.

I believe that the reports on the stolen/lost keys could actually be a spin-off of what in police investigator jargon is called 'making wind'. This is what SY have been doing with their TV broadcast and the (probably leaked) noises around possible new suspects. The purpose of 'making wind' is to literally stir up the dust in old cases and to induce anxiety in the perpetrators' minds to suggest that the web is closing in on them. This heightened nervousness from media and SY/PJ breezing down their necks, then leads to more 'panicky' behaviors that can reveal clues about this case (e.g by people starting to accuse each other, tapping phone calls of suspects since there is a need to re-align on stories, etc.).

Lyall

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Re: Latest reports claim the keys at OC had been stolen?
« Reply #82 on: February 12, 2014, 02:23:38 PM »
Perhaps even they recognise it as rubbish.

It is the James Murray article 8)-)))

He's the Investigations Editor who cried Wolf!

Offline jassi

Re: Latest reports claim the keys at OC had been stolen?
« Reply #83 on: February 12, 2014, 03:26:45 PM »
Indeed Vixte. I really appreciate the logical way you try to connect the dots and the effort you put in to develop new conjectures that are underpinned by the hard and soft data points available. It is definitely not easy to create those consistent scenarios, but it typically is very easy to criticize them with an effortless one-liner.

I believe that the reports on the stolen/lost keys could actually be a spin-off of what in police investigator jargon is called 'making wind'. This is what SY have been doing with their TV broadcast and the (probably leaked) noises around possible new suspects. The purpose of 'making wind' is to literally stir up the dust in old cases and to induce anxiety in the perpetrators' minds to suggest that the web is closing in on them. This heightened nervousness from media and SY/PJ breezing down their necks, then leads to more 'panicky' behaviors that can reveal clues about this case (e.g by people starting to accuse each other, tapping phone calls of suspects since there is a need to re-align on stories, etc.).

These stories might be circulating in UK, but Crimewatch wasn't broadcast in Portugal, nor will all the UK reportage be being repeated, so just who are they trying to destabilise with their 'wind'
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline VIXTE

Re: Latest reports claim the keys at OC had been stolen?
« Reply #84 on: February 12, 2014, 04:50:32 PM »
These stories might be circulating in UK, but Crimewatch wasn't broadcast in Portugal, nor will all the UK reportage be being repeated, so just who are they trying to destabilise with their 'wind'

It was actually the PT paper that reported on 'suspicious driver'.. so the guy knows they are looking at him..


Offline VIXTE

Re: Latest reports claim the keys at OC had been stolen?
« Reply #85 on: February 12, 2014, 04:52:29 PM »
Indeed Vixte. I really appreciate the logical way you try to connect the dots and the effort you put in to develop new conjectures that are underpinned by the hard and soft data points available. It is definitely not easy to create those consistent scenarios, but it typically is very easy to criticize them with an effortless one-liner.

I believe that the reports on the stolen/lost keys could actually be a spin-off of what in police investigator jargon is called 'making wind'. This is what SY have been doing with their TV broadcast and the (probably leaked) noises around possible new suspects. The purpose of 'making wind' is to literally stir up the dust in old cases and to induce anxiety in the perpetrators' minds to suggest that the web is closing in on them. This heightened nervousness from media and SY/PJ breezing down their necks, then leads to more 'panicky' behaviors that can reveal clues about this case (e.g by people starting to accuse each other, tapping phone calls of suspects since there is a need to re-align on stories, etc.).

It actually could be nothing.. it could be just the guy's personality of wanting to put his nose where it doesn't belong..  like us  @)(++(*

But it  also could be him getting a bit nervous...

Offline jassi

Re: Latest reports claim the keys at OC had been stolen?
« Reply #86 on: February 12, 2014, 05:03:00 PM »
It was actually the PT paper that reported on 'suspicious driver'.. so the guy knows they are looking at him..

Ah, OK.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Redblossom

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Re: Latest reports claim the keys at OC had been stolen?
« Reply #87 on: February 12, 2014, 08:51:15 PM »
Extract from Archiving Report
I - Introduction
Before actually entering the appreciation of the present inquiry it is useful to take a summarised look at the enormous dimension of the inquiry which is constituted of 17 Volumes, with a global processing of approximately 4500 pages, 9 appendixes that are integrated by 55 Volumes, in which 12000 pages and other relevant pieces were gathered, analysed and treated; further 22 dossiers were constituted, with more than 5000 pages, concerning fanciful or senseless news, yet organised out of mere caution.


Maybe it has been looked at before and is in here  >@@(*&)

Shocking that so much manpower and resources were put on the "senseless and fanciful" but kudos for the thoroughness!

As one of the top forensic detectives in the UK has said in the documentary Dispatches, IIRC, the PT police did a pretty good job on the whole

Eta link for quote

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mccanns-evidence-doesnt-add-up-514328
« Last Edit: February 12, 2014, 09:07:09 PM by Redblossom »

Offline VIXTE

Re: Latest reports claim the keys at OC had been stolen?
« Reply #88 on: February 12, 2014, 10:30:43 PM »
Shocking that so much manpower and resources were put on the "senseless and fanciful" but kudos for the thoroughness!

As one of the top forensic detectives in the UK has said in the documentary Dispatches, IIRC, the PT police did a pretty good job on the whole

Eta link for quote

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mccanns-evidence-doesnt-add-up-514328

What is the reason of mentioning this?
Don't we expect that SY has after so much research passed this level?

Redblossom

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Re: Latest reports claim the keys at OC had been stolen?
« Reply #89 on: February 13, 2014, 03:43:12 PM »
What is the reason of mentioning this?
Don't we expect that SY has after so much research passed this level?

What level? Do you think SY have investigated this multitude of "senseless and fanciful" leads?
The point made was in answer to Estuarines post, ie that the PJ did  a thorough job, chasing needles in haystacks as well as the "not nonsensical and fanciful"

I very much  doubt SY will be spending manpower and resources chasing up garden paths!