Who was the Irish teenager who saw Gerry and Jez talking?

[Carana]

And no one believes a word said by Levy.  Not even Morais.  Although they both appear to have thought that there was something in it for them.

Paulo Reis got picked up by Anorak over other issues as a result of that collaboration and landed himself in a mess.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1442.msg41558#msg41558

[Brietta]

On 10th May at about 20.10, upon the request of the PJ, searches were carried out in all of the apartments belonging to blocks 4 and 5 of the OC, two tracker dogs and two search and rescue dogs being used for this operation, adopting the same methods as those used on 7th May, just that this time the apartments were all open and searched one by one, being accompanied by a representative from the resort, who had the keys to all the apartments (apart from those not under her administration) and also with the objective of helping with the searches. The collaboration of all the guests occupying the apartments at that time was requested for this purpose and those apartments that were found to be empty were opened by the administrator.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GNR_SNIFFER.htm

Your opinion may be wrong.

Indeed it may very well be ... but the diligences applied to apartment blocks four and five might have been considered appropriate for other residential blocks in the immediate area when the transient population is considered.

I am curious about the occupants of 5J for example.

[Brietta]

Paulo Reis got picked up by Anorak over other issues as a result of that collaboration and landed himself in a mess.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1442.msg41558#msg41558

Thanks for that information, Carana, that is the first I have heard of that little gem.

I think it is an illustration of the loose and inaccurate 'journalism' which has formed opinion and continues to be propagated using internet platforms ... such as the probably fictitious teenager who did not see Jane Tanner.

[G-Unit]

Indeed it may very well be ... but the diligences applied to apartment blocks four and five might have been considered appropriate for other residential blocks in the immediate area when the transient population is considered.

I am curious about the occupants of 5J for example.

My point was that not all apartments could be searched (no keys), and yes, I'd like to have seen an in-depth look at 5J too. (I'm assuming there wasn't one)

[misty]

My point was that not all apartments could be searched (no keys), and yes, I'd like to have seen an in-depth look at 5J too. (I'm assuming there wasn't one)

It is strange that the PJ didn't make a request for Eddie & Keela to examine 5J.

[G-Unit]

It is strange that the PJ didn't make a request for Eddie & Keela to examine 5J.

The sniffer dogs showed interest at the door and when they had 5J opened there was a fridge with the door open and rotting meat and vegetables, so they probably thought that explained it. It would have been interesting to see Grimes' dogs go in there.

[Brietta]

My point was that not all apartments could be searched (no keys), and yes, I'd like to have seen an in-depth look at 5J too. (I'm assuming there wasn't one)

No reports of one which is not to say it wasn't done but I doubt it as it was said it had been empty for some time; however I don't think I would have been quite so relaxed about gaining entry by leaving it till the 10th despite the GNR dogs showing an interest on the 7th, I would have been particularly interested in why the rotten food in the fridge and why the door had been left open.

[Brietta]

It is strange that the PJ didn't make a request for Eddie & Keela to examine 5J.

I think the very professional job carried out by the GNR dogs and their handlers has been underestimated as they were pushing what they had been trained to do over and above the limit ... I don't think it was rocket science to realise that VRDs were required to follow through on their responses.
That would perhaps have saved a lot of future distress and misunderstanding.

[Carana]

The sniffer dogs showed interest at the door and when they had 5J opened there was a fridge with the door open and rotting meat and vegetables, so they probably thought that explained it. It would have been interesting to see Grimes' dogs go in there.

The GNR dogs were public order dogs and S&R dogs, weren't they? Why would they have been interested in the smell of decomposing food in a fridge?

Yes, I agree that it may have been interesting for Grime's dogs to inspect that apartment and for more thorough forensics on it ... straight after the disappearance, not 3 months later.

Why didn't Grime's dogs inspect that apartment and other potential venues of interest while they were there?

[ShiningInLuz]

If you look back, Anorak did not invent it. It was originally posted on a blog, SOS Madeleine, which was Levy's blog hosted on the Belgian rag La Dernière Heure and the translation appeared on Paulo Reis's blog, which then got picked up by Anorak.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3550.0

Thanks for this.  I am now happy that Anorak did not invent this.

It was invented elsewhere and merely reiterated by Anorak.

It is still someone gluing together a number of parts that simply do not fit each other.

[G-Unit]

I think the very professional job carried out by the GNR dogs and their handlers has been underestimated as they were pushing what they had been trained to do over and above the limit ... I don't think it was rocket science to realise that VRDs were required to follow through on their responses.
That would perhaps have saved a lot of future distress and misunderstanding.

The search and rescue dogs. brought in on 4th May; took this route;

At about 23.00 the extra teams that had been requested for reinforcement arrived (Officer Rosa with Oscar and Officer Martins with Fusco, both from the search and rescue unit and Officer Fernandes with Rex and Zarus from the tracking team).

After the officers had been updated about facts relating to the disappearance, they tried to reconstruct the route the girl might have taken with the two tracker dogs. For this purpose the dogs were given a blanket to sniff, provided by the parents, which had been used by Madeleine.

Beginning to follow the track using Rex, from the door of apartment 5 A (the place where the girl had been sleeping) he would always head in the direction of Block 4, leaving block 5 the dog would turn to the left, pass by a metal access door to a path existing between the apartments blocks to the leisure area (restaurant, pool and playground). Immediately another attempt at reconstruction was made using the dog Zarus, who, in general terms, ended up following the same route as Rex and having the same behaviour.

They returned on 7th May;

At about 23.00 accompanied by a PJ inspector, the searches were begun. After Rex was given the girl's clothing to sniff, he began to search on the ground floor of block 5 and when he passed the door of apartment 5 A (the place the girl had disappeared from) according to his handler, officer Fernandes, the dog altered its behaviour, sniffing with greater intensity than he had done before. Apartment 5J of the same block was also checked as the dog had been more agitated than before as if there were a very strong strange odour there. It was stated that this apartment had been unoccupied for some time. Afterwards, the same kind of search was carried out using the dog Zarus which in general terms showed the same behaviour in the same places as Rex had done.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GNR_SNIFFER.htm

[Anna]

Thanks for this.  I am now happy that Anorak did not invent this.

It was invented elsewhere and merely reiterated by Anorak.

It is still someone gluing together a number of parts that simply do not fit each other.

The smoking Teenager who saw Gerry and Jez= story, seems to have come from here and our friend Duarte Levy. http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.co.uk/2007_10_01_archive.html

[Alfred R Jones]

The smoking Teenager who saw Gerry and Jez= story, seems to have come from here and our friend Duarte Levy. http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.co.uk/2007_10_01_archive.html

Say no more.  Another "sceptic" propagandist extraordinaire.

[ShiningInLuz]

The smoking Teenager who saw Gerry and Jez= story, seems to have come from here and our friend Duarte Levy. http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.co.uk/2007_10_01_archive.html

Thanks, Anna.

I am now getting to practice my French (as well as my Portuguese, Spanish and English).  If bilingual helps you live longer, I reckon I can crack up 140 not out at this rate with no problem.

By the way, over at ShiningInLuz, I am ever so slowly grinding my way through places that were open on the evening of 3 May 2007.

Estrela da Luz CCTV went up tonight.

[Anna]

Thanks, Anna.

I am now getting to practice my French (as well as my Portuguese, Spanish and English).  If bilingual helps you live longer, I reckon I can crack up 140 not out at this rate with no problem.

By the way, over at ShiningInLuz, I am ever so slowly grinding my way through places that were open on the evening of 3 May 2007.

Estrela da Luz CCTV went up tonight.

You are welcome Shining,
I think the teenager was a myth and as you probably know this chap was a friend of Mr Amaral.
 What do you mean (in bold) ? I thought there was a CCTV there already.