DCI Redwood now admits Madeleine may not have left the apartment alive.

[icabodcrane]

If SY accept the cadaver dogs evidence...there is only one option...surely...maddie died in the appt

Without corroborating evidence either way  Scotland Yard can niether  'accept'  or  'reject'  the accuracy of the cadaver dog's alerts 

Scotland Yard,  like us,  simply don't  KNOW   whether the cadaver dog was correct in his alerts or not  ?

Scotland Yard are   (  as they must  )  allowing for  both possibilities  :

The cadaver dog's alert  was wrong   ...   and Madeleine did not die  in the apartment

The cadaver dog's alert  was right  ...  and Madeliene  did die in the apartment 

 

[Mr Gray]

Without corroborating evidence either way  Scotland Yard can niether  'accept'  or  'reject'  the accuracy of the cadaver dog's alerts 

Scotland Yard,  like us,  simply don't  KNOW   whether the cadaver dog was correct in his alerts or not  ?

Scotland Yard are   (  as they must  )  allowing for  both possibilities  :

The cadaver dog's alert  was wrong   ...   and Madeleine did not die  in the apartment

The cadaver dog's alert  was right  ...  and Madeliene  did die in the apartment

 Maddie may or may not have died in the apartment .....  that's it

[Albertini]

lets keep it simple..if she is alive...what does that say about the dogs alerts

But SY aren't saying she is definitely alive, are they?

As i been pointed out they either regard the dogs alerts as correct or they are inconclusive.

Either position is not an outright disregarding of  the dogs findings.

I have presented to you on the only two scenarios which would back up your opinion and SY haven't said either of them.

So yet again you are wrong.

[Mr Gray]

But SY aren't saying she is definitely alive, are they?

As i been pointed out they either regard the dogs alerts as correct or they are inconclusive.

Either position is not an outright disregarding of  the dogs findings.

I have presented to you on the only two scenarios which would back up your opinion and SY haven't said either of them.

So yet again you are wrong.

where am I wrong...please...for the delight of everybody...point out where I am wrong

[Albertini]

If SY accept the cadaver dogs evidence...there is only one option...surely...maddie died in the appt

You said SY had discounted the dogs alerts.

The option you are missing is "inconclusive". Inconclusive is not discounting.

[stephen25000]

..............and of course if she died in the apartment, and it was nothing to do with an 'intruder' what then davel ?

What would be the conclusion then ?

..........any answer yet davel ?

[Mr Gray]

You said SY had discounted the dogs alerts.

The option you are missing is "inconclusive". Inconclusive is not discounting.

who use the words inconclusive ... I didn't

[Albertini]

where am I wrong...please...for the delight of everybody...point out where I am wrong

Oh for heaven's sake, how many times!

You said SY had discounted the dogs alerts based on the fact that earlier in the investigation they said she "may" be alive.

The only way for definite the dog's findings could be to use your terms, discounted, is for SY to outright rubbish the findings or to state categorically she is alive.

I repeat they have not said either of those things. 

To say she may be alive earlier in the investigation and then subsequently last week say she may have died in the apartment means they either believe the dogs evidence or find them to be inconclusive.

That does not mean, as you erroneously stated that SY had discounted them.

[Mr Gray]

..........any answer yet davel ?

do you mean if the parents were accused and found guilty

[Mr Gray]

Oh for heaven's sake, how many times!

You said SY had discounted the dogs alerts based on the fact that earlier in the investigation they said she "may" be alive.

The only way for definite the dog's findings could be to use your terms, discounted, is for SY to outright rubbish the findings or to state categorically she is alive.

I repeat they have not said either of those things. 

To say she may be alive earlier in the investigation and then subsequently last week say she may have died in the apartment means they either believe the dogs evidence or find them to be inconclusive.

That does not mean, as you erroneously stated that SY had discounted them.

I don't agree and neither would anyone in their right mind...if maddie is alive the dogs are wrong...SY said maddie may be alive...therefore the dogs would be wrong ...fact

[Albertini]

third time wrong..they don't think she is actually alive...they think she MAY be alive...you really don't seem to understand anything

Deary me reading and comprehension have never been your strong point, have they?

The paragraph you highlighted related to what SY may be thinking in their investigation and not what they said in their press conferences.

Hence why what i said that you quoted me on was:

And that's working on the assumption you take everything said by SY at face value.

I can understand why they said she "may be alive" even if they secretly think she may be dead, but i can see no logic for them saying she may have died in the apartment, if they thought she was actually alive.

I stated what they said in relation to "may" i was talking about what they might be thinking.

[jassi]

I don't agree and neither would anyone in their right mind...if maddie is alive the dogs are wrong...SY said maddie may be alive...therefore the dogs would be wrong ...fact

The dogs would only be wrong if she were proved to be alive

[Silkywhiskers]

I don't agree and neither would anyone in their right mind...if maddie is alive the dogs are wrong...SY said maddie may be alive...therefore the dogs would be wrong ...fact

That's like saying Mars is made of cheese until someone proves otherwise.

The indications are that it is NOT made of cheese.  All testing available reveals it is made of various components, none of which are cheese.  The scientists, those in the know, say it isn't cheese.

But you still keep banging on (despite the EVIDENCE) that it's cheese because no one has proven it's not.

[Silkywhiskers]

SY apparently believe the dogs.

So that's Leics police, the PJ, now SY, all suspecting M died in 5a, but posters here still claim they know better.

If it isn't the dogs that are indicating this scenario, what is??????

[jassi]

no ...your post s make no sense...as usual...mine are simple and make perfect sense


SY say maddie may still be alive...fact...end of

Only to you.