Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?

[Anna]

I don't think you could have read all the posts...I seem to remember some where she claimed to be in direct touch with grime

It seems he/she was also in touch with SY and knew all about 5A, 5A occupants and close neighbours . No mention of the officer who requested Mr Grime and the dogs over to PT though?

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3582.msg136231#msg136231

[stephen25000]

Yes.

Cuddle-cat.

A failure to alert when he should have?

Or an "alert" where he should not?

And all the clothes inspected in the gym were present, also, in the villa, yet not alerted to.

So where was the error?

In the villa?

Or the gym?

So do you know precisely which clothes were contaminated and which weren't ?

Are you privy to all the forensic reports ?

What exactly are your scientific qualifications ( I'm not talking about any particular university )  ?

[Anna]

Yes.

Cuddle-cat.

A failure to alert when he should have?

Or an "alert" where he should not?

And all the clothes inspected in the gym were present, also, in the villa, yet not alerted to.

So where was the error?

In the villa?

Or the gym?

............Or the Apt the MCanns  moved into with their clothing after leaving 5A and before the villa. Someone said that the dog handler did not know which Apt was used by the McCanns........................It was all over the news 

[ferryman]

So do you know precisely which clothes were contaminated and which weren't ?

Are you privy to all the forensic reports ?

What exactly are your scientific qualifications ( I'm not talking about any particular university )  ?

Following the search effected at Rua das Flores, 27, during which certain items were seized, this present inspection was performed, in a place appropriated for its purpose, [the gym] attempting to identify particular pieces of clothing possibly indicated by the dogs, namely Eddy [that] indicates cadaver odours and Kila [that] indicates blood odours.

[stephen25000]

Following the search effected at Rua das Flores, 27, during which certain items were seized, this present inspection was performed, in a place appropriated for its purpose, [the gym] attempting to identify particular pieces of clothing possibly indicated by the dogs, namely Eddy [that] indicates cadaver odours and Kila [that] indicates blood odours.

Now how exactly does this prove the dogs were wrong ?

If you will remember, the forensics are inconclusive.

As regards abduction, there is no forensic evidence at all. Just hearsay.

[ferryman]

Now how exactly does this prove the dogs were wrong ?

If you will remember, the forensics are inconclusive.

As regards abduction, there is no forensic evidence at all. Just hearsay.

Nice attempt at derailment, Stephen.

But failed, I'm afraid.

[ferryman]

............Or the Apt the MCanns  moved into with their clothing after leaving 5A and before the villa. Someone said that the dog handler did not know which Apt was used by the McCanns........................It was all over the news 

I'd clean forgotten about that.

Was there an inspection in that apartment?

[stephen25000]

Nice attempt at derailment, Stephen.

But failed, I'm afraid.

No derailment.

Just provide the proof the dogs were wrong.

[Anna]

I'd clean forgotten about that.

Was there an inspection in that apartment?

All apartments were examined by dogs

[icabodcrane]

These  'dog'  threads go on and on,  but, in truth,  there is nothing to say the cadaver dog in the McCann case did  not  detect the scent of Madeleine McCann's dead body

Whilst the child  remains disappeared it is entirely possible that the dog barked because she died in apartment 5A ,   and he picked up the scent

[Anna]

These  'dog'  threads go on and on,  but, in truth,  there is nothing to say the cadaver dog in the McCann case did  not  detect the scent of Madeleine McCann's dead body

Whilst the child  remains disappeared it is entirely possible that the dog barked because she died in apartment 5A ,   and he picked up the scent

Yes of course it is possible that she died in the apartment, but likewise as for abduction, there is no proof............as yet

[stephen25000]

Yes of course it is possible that she died in the apartment, but likewise as for abduction, there is no proof............as yet

Inconclusive forensics for the apartment.

Nothing at all as regard abduction.

[Anna]

Inconclusive forensics for the apartment.

Nothing at all as regard abduction.

= Nothing

[icabodcrane]

Yes of course it is possible that she died in the apartment, but likewise as for abduction, there is no proof............as yet

What I said was,  is that it is entirely possible the cadaver dog picked up the scent of  the missing child's dead body

...  it is,  isn't it  ? 

[stephen25000]

= Nothing

You also have to evaluate the statistical success of dogs in cases where they have been used to locate bodies.

A principa lof course which the Police would also use as well. >@@(*&)