Are Victim Detection and Forensic Evidence Search Dogs reliable?

[John]

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These issues have already been addressed on at least three occasions so asking the same question again will be deemed to be spam.

Mr Grime was employed by SYP when he was tasked to Portugal.  He retired in August 2007 and was not employed by the police when he wrote his Report thus the non official headed notepaper.  At that point he was correctly referred to as the trainer/owner of the dogs having been allowed to retain them on his retirement.

What uniform Mr Grime wore in Portugal was a matter for him.  He was not obliged to wear any uniform and protective clothing was a matter entirely for him at his discretion.

Hopefully at some point in the near future (legal restraints permitting) he will be able to reply to specific questions on his deployment in Praia da Luz.

[Alfred R Jones]

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What legal restraints currently prevent Grime from discussing the case now - is he actively involved in the investigation still?  And, why did he not take the opportunity to shed more light on his dogs' alerts when the case was closed all those years ago?

[ferryman]

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Aside from that Grime retired in August 2007 (true!) the rest is as untrue when you wrote it as it is today.

One simple, salient, fact. 

SYP would not have deployed two dogs and one handler.

[John]

Aside from that Grime retired in August 2007 (true!) the rest is as untrue when you wrote it as it is today.

One simple, salient, fact. 

SYP would not have deployed two dogs and one handler.

Off course they would, my own force did it often.  Martin was handler to both dogs, you cannot expect another officer to work with a dog he is unfamiliar with.   Please can we have no more of these spurious claims.

[John]

What legal restraints currently prevent Grime from discussing the case now - is he actively involved in the investigation still?  And, why did he not take the opportunity to shed more light on his dogs' alerts when the case was closed all those years ago?

He has told us that he cannot answer questions specific to his deployment in Praia da Luz in case there is a trial at some future date.

[ferryman]

Off course they would, my own force did it often.  Martin was handler to both dogs, you cannot expect another officer to work with a dog he is unfamiliar with.   Please can we have no more of these spurious claims.

Keela's handler was John Ellis.

[John]

Keela's handler was John Ellis.

Yet Keela stayed with Martin after PdL.  Sending two canine officers to Portugal was not cost effective.

[Alfred R Jones]

He has told us that he cannot answer questions specific to his deployment in Praia da Luz in case there is a trial at some future date.

In effect he is silenced forever then.

[Mr Gray]

In effect he is silenced forever then.

So it's no comment to any questions re the alerts in PDL

[Lyall]

So it's no comment to any questions re the alerts in PDL

I wouldn't hold your breath for him answering any of your questions

[Brietta]

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You've lost me there, John.

Are you saying that Operation HAVEN are wrong in giving Martin Grime's retirement date as July 2007?

[Carana]

He has told us that he cannot answer questions specific to his deployment in Praia da Luz in case there is a trial at some future date.

What was the point of the questions thread, then?

[Mr Gray]

I wouldn't hold your breath for him answering any of your questions

he's already answered them all

[John]

What was the point of the questions thread, then?

The questions were passed to him and he acknowledged that they were excellent but he is constrained by the possibility of a future trial.

[Carana]

The questions were passed to him and he acknowledged that they were excellent but he is constrained by the possibility of a future trial.

I thought he could answer general questions about his dogs and dog handling, but wasn't supposed to talk about the details of any specific case?

Two general questions:

Did Eddie's training parameters extend to a) decomposing sex fluids and b) the residual scent of blood or not?