The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.

[pegasus]

I think a physical reconstruction of the time from 21:05 to to 22:00 would in itself have achieved nothing, because during that time period not even one of the witnesses were acting or faking behaviour.
The investigation then (and possibly even now?) starts off with an assumption of "tempo" (source: Final Report, Introduction, Page 1) which I think is illogical.

[Miss Taken Identity]

I believe the issue is more about why they chose NOT to do a reconstruction in Portual for the police to let them ascertain time lines as near as was possible- not an unreasonable request, as far as investigating a child disappearance  goes, and they being the last people to have see her in the apartment 'allegedly'.

But they chose to get involved with the TV 'version' for the UK public-to promote their Thesis-which was scripted.

Gerry gets to take control of the 'show'

[Eleanor]

I have to say that reading some of the emails about the reconstruction to The Tapas 7, that Rebelo feller would have scared me half to death.  No way would I have gone anywhere near Portugal at that time.

And did anyone else read the lies in The Press about them demanding five star accommodation for free?

[Miss Taken Identity]

This would be the same press that told the UK public that the parents are innocent and maddie was abducted.

That press? oh  yes, don't you hate it when the press don't print what Kate n Gerry want us to know and what is to be held back.  So dang annoying.

Scary policemen? hahahahahahahaha not half as scary as having your daughter abducted I would imagine, but....we all have different levels of fear I suppose.

[pathfinder73]

This would be the same press that told the UK public that the parents are innocent and maddie was abducted.

That press? oh  yes, don't you hate it when the press don't print what Kate n Gerry want us to know and what is to be held back.  So dang annoying.

Scary policemen? hahahahahahahaha not half as scary as having your daughter abducted I would imagine, but....we all have different levels of fear I suppose.

Agreed those scary policeman trying to do their job and find out the truth. Seems like others don't want the truth to be found.

[Benice]

I have to say that reading some of the emails about the reconstruction to The Tapas 7, that Rebelo feller would have scared me half to death.  No way would I have gone anywhere near Portugal at that time.

And did anyone else read the lies in The Press about them demanding five star accommodation for free?

Pure speculation on my part but.........

IMO the PJ knew the group wouldn't agree to attend a recon.      In fact IMO they were banking on it - and so to make sure they wouldn't agree  -  they let them know that they could not guarantee that the press would not be there, they referred to the McCanns as 'the offenders' and told them not to bring their children with them.  That last bit alone would make me suspicious enough to say 'No way'.   

 They also said that if only one of them refused to go - it wouldn't take place at all.    So once Jez said he wasn't going - that was the end of it anyway.

Having been viciously  smeared in the media themselves and then having to watch their friends who they knew to be innocent made Arguidos - the group's trust in the PJ's motives would be less than ZERO.     And who could blame them?

I think the PJ breathed a huge sigh of relief when they refused, and then proceeded to use that refusal as part of the reason why they had to shelve the case.

IMO it was a face-saving exercise.  (and it worked too)

[stephen25000]

Pure speculation on my part but.........

IMO the PJ knew the group wouldn't agree to attend a recon.      In fact IMO they were banking on it - and so to make sure they wouldn't agree  -  they let them know that they could not guarantee that the press would not be there, they referred to the McCanns as 'the offenders' and told them not to bring their children with them.  That last bit alone would make me suspicious enough to say 'No way'.   

 They also said that if only one of them refused to go - it wouldn't take place at all.    So once Jez said he wasn't going - that was the end of it anyway.

Having been viciously  smeared in the media themselves and then having to watch their friends who they knew to be innocent made Arguidos - the group's trust in the PJ's motives would be less than ZERO.     And who could blame them?

I think the PJ breathed a huge sigh of relief when they refused, and then proceeded to use that refusal as part of the reason why they had to shelve the case.

IMO it was a face-saving exercise.  (and it worked too)

The mccanns and associates had no excuse for not doing a reconstruction.

it would have been easy to arrange.

[Benice]

The mccanns and associates had no excuse for not doing a reconstruction.

it would have been easy to arrange.

Bearing in mind that the PJ wanted an 'accurate' recon - showing 'exact' places where people were - then tell me how that was going to be achieved if several of the group did not know 'accurate' times of when they moved around in the first place?

For instance:

PJ to Jez:    We want you to set off on your walk at the same time you did on 3rd May.
Jez to PJ:    But I don't know the exact time - what if I have a guess at it  - and get it a couple of minutes wrong - and end up missing Gerry altogether.   What happens then?
PJ to Jez:    Errrmmmm...............................................................

What do you think their answer would be Stephen?   (or anyone for that matter)

[stephen25000]

Bearing in mind that the PJ wanted an 'accurate' recon - showing 'exact' places where people were - then tell me how that was going to be achieved if several of the group did not know 'accurate' times of when they moved around in the first place?

For instance:

PJ to Jez:    We want you to set off on your walk at the same time you did on 3rd May.
Jez to PJ:    But I don't know the exact time - what if I have a guess at it  - and get it a couple of minutes wrong - and end up missing Gerry altogether.   What happens then?
PJ to Jez:    Errrmmmm...............................................................

What do you think their answer would be Stephen?   (or anyone for that matter)

Ermmmmm. 

However, bearing in mind the meeting they had in the 'Rothley' when they returned to the UK, they would have 'SORTED' out their stories, don't you think.

[jassi]

Purely a social get together. The events of that night every never  entered into any conversation.

[stephen25000]

Purely a social get together. The events of that night every never  entered into any conversation.

Absolutely, it was just a soiree.

[Benice]

Ermmmmm. 

However, bearing in mind the meeting they had in the 'Rothley' when they returned to the UK, they would have 'SORTED' out their stories, don't you think.

Sorted out what 'stories' about what?  And in what way?   Please clarify.   

Was Jez Wilkins at this meeting btw?

[Eleanor]

Pure speculation on my part but.........

IMO the PJ knew the group wouldn't agree to attend a recon.      In fact IMO they were banking on it - and so to make sure they wouldn't agree  -  they let them know that they could not guarantee that the press would not be there, they referred to the McCanns as 'the offenders' and told them not to bring their children with them.  That last bit alone would make me suspicious enough to say 'No way'.   

 They also said that if only one of them refused to go - it wouldn't take place at all.    So once Jez said he wasn't going - that was the end of it anyway.

Having been viciously  smeared in the media themselves and then having to watch their friends who they knew to be innocent made Arguidos - the group's trust in the PJ's motives would be less than ZERO.     And who could blame them?

I think the PJ breathed a huge sigh of relief when they refused, and then proceeded to use that refusal as part of the reason why they had to shelve the case.

IMO it was a face-saving exercise.  (and it worked too)

This has always been my belief as well.  It is quite obvious to me.  Leave The Tapas 7 wondering if they were going to be arrested, and that'll sort that.
I expect that Jeremy Willkins felt the same.  He was the first to refuse, with no pressure from anyone.

[stephen25000]

This has always been my belief as well.  It is quite obvious to me.  Leave The Tapas 7 wondering if they were going to be arrested, and that'll sort that.
I expect that Jeremy Willkins felt the same.  He was the first to refuse, with no pressure from anyone.

Why should they have been arrested ?

Did they do something wrong ?

[Miss Taken Identity]

In the email's  which were used as a corresponding method regarding the request from Portugal, there is no reference to them seeking "accurate" accounts- the words used are- approximate.

(emails to be found in McCannfiles).

Of course we can look at what the real reason was, but that is hidden behind this fascade:

quote"When the PJ finally requested a reconstruction to take place in 2008, Gerry and I were still arguidos and as such would have attended for a reconstruction.
( They knew why they were being asked)Some key witnesses (including some of our friends)declined to attend the planned reconstruction as they were not convinced of the aims and usefulness of it. In particular, as the reconstruction was not to be shown to the media (and hence the general public), they did not feel it would help to find Madeleine" unquote. -

They didn't feel it would help Madeleine? If this wasn't so serious It would be funny, how can unskilled investigators 'feel' it wont help?

The real reason  is in the first line: Kate and Gerry KNEW they would have to evidence their time line without contradiction.  Thus eliminating the suspicion placed upon them if that were the case. It was in their interest also to take part-if they were innocent. The excuse used that it wouldn't help the search is a red herring-this was a police investigation to find out what happened.

http://madeleinemccann.org/official-mccann-updates-jan-dec-2010/#sthash.SE6[Name removed]TnB.dpuf

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