The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.

[Alfred R Jones]

I just case you the evidence: exoneration was declared in 2008, and that declaration was reinforced by the newspapers thousands of times. Everyone must now stick to that line.

Action taken against the Sunday Times is also evidence.

That's your evidence the police are ruled by their lawyers?  Pathetic.

[Lyall]

Don't be absurd.  He would not have said "the McCanns are suspects" he could easily have said "no comment" or "we are starting from the beginning and all possible scenarios are being investigated".  He could not have been sued for saying either of those things.  The fact is he made a categorical statement,leaving no one in any doubt.  See my tag line below.

He made a statement that matched what the PM said. Who'd have expected that?

[Lyall]

That's your evidence the police are ruled by their lawyers?  Pathetic.

In this case of all cases, yes.

You or I wouldn't have two of the most formidable legal companies at our disposal would we.

This case isn't just any old case.

[Alfred R Jones]

He made a statement that matched what the PM said. Who'd have expected that?

What are you implying?

[Miss Taken Identity]

I just case you the evidence: exoneration was declared in 2008, and that declaration was reinforced by the newspapers thousands of times. Everyone must now stick to that line.

Action taken against the Sunday Times is also evidence.

Sadly that is now the case.  The Sunday Times could have done that piece better. I do agree there will be more litigation.
 And  the NSY have not said WE HAVE LOOKED AT ALL THE EVIDNCE AND CAN SAY The family are not involved.

They are not suspects at this time...

[Benice]

I could do better than that: If my neighbour ran banging my door telling me her daughter had been abducted - I would phone the police immediately and I would be able to tell the police everything I did that day-who I spoke to- what I had for dinner- what time I got up...ALL of that and then some, and it wasn't even my daughter!

The fives times table never changed - unlike the timeline... That was the point you missed! whoosh way over the head! lol

The Judiciary at that time needed clarification why can't you accept, that there are still to this day, discrepancies- now they may be innocent and easily explained discrepancies- but why try and make out it was about entrapment? and the McCanns should have been placed on a pedestal. You really do not have a valid argument or produce a reasonable excuse for Maddies parents behavior.

And maybe they 'knew' their  chosen timeline would not stand up to scrutiny and that is why they felt it would be a 'trap'.

Anyway, we will never know. They didn't go!

And what if you had nine other neighbours who became involved.   Would you expect them to be able to do the same -  and expect everything they said to fit in exactly with everything you said?

Memories don't work like that - they work like this:-

Quote

In a crime situation memory is influenced by many factors such as stress, the presence of a weapon and even just the desire to help police solve the crime.

"Police know how fallible the memory can be," says Steve Retford, a former head of the investigative skills unit at GMP and now specialist interviewing adviser with the force.

"They also know this is usually not through mischievousness on the part of the witnesses, but through stress and shock."

Take the case of Jean Charles de Menezes, shot at Stockwell Tube station in 2005 by police who mistook him for a suicide bomber.

Eyewitnesses said he had vaulted a ticket barrier when running away from the police. In fact it was later shown by CCTV that Mr Menezes had walked through the barriers, having picked up a free newspaper, and only ran when he saw his train arriving.
End quote

[Alfred R Jones]

In this case of all cases, yes.

You or I wouldn't have two of the most formidable legal companies at our disposal would we.

This case isn't just any old case.

No, what is it then?  You seem to be suggesting the McCanns are really rather special, is that so?

[Mr Gray]

And if he'd said the opposite the quote would have been repeated a million times on social media wouldn't it.

The McCanns - and the papers - declared they'd been exonerated in 2008.

Anyone who doesn't stick with that line now - especially anyone as authoritative as the police - risks action.

They don't care when an idiot like me says it. But can you imagine what the uproar would have been if Redwood had said it? Huge!

Redwood didn't have to say anything....he would have known what questions were to be asked and agreed to them.....

[Lyall]

No, what is it then?  You seem to be suggesting the McCanns are really rather special, is that so?

No. But the case is.

[Lyall]

Sadly that is now the case.  The Sunday Times could have done that piece better. I do agree there will be more litigation.
 And  the NSY have not said WE HAVE LOOKED AT ALL THE EVIDNCE AND CAN SAY The family are not involved.

They are not suspects at this time...

  I agree.

[Miss Taken Identity]

And what if you had nine other neighbours who became involved.   Would you expect them to be able to do the same -  and expect everything they said to fit in exactly with everything you said?

Memories don't work like that - they work like this:-

Quote

In a crime situation memory is influenced by many factors such as stress, the presence of a weapon and even just the desire to help police solve the crime.

"Police know how fallible the memory can be," says Steve Retford, a former head of the investigative skills unit at GMP and now specialist interviewing adviser with the force.

"They also know this is usually not through mischievousness on the part of the witnesses, but through stress and shock."

Take the case of Jean Charles de Menezes, shot at Stockwell Tube station in 2005 by police who mistook him for a suicide bomber.

Eyewitnesses said he had vaulted a ticket barrier when running away from the police. In fact it was later shown by CCTV that Mr Menezes had walked through the barriers, having picked up a free newspaper, and only ran when he saw his train arriving.
End quote

Yes I would expect my neighbours would be able to say what they did that day.

The people you are quoting are expressing an opinion- They do not know what I was doing when my neighbour ran to me do they? and you did direct that question to me!

Stress can cause blind panic in difficult situation I am not disagreeing with that. I am being specific about events leading up to Maddies disappearance- The tapas had an agenda of sorts I feel sure about that. I think it maybe they were afraid about the back lash regarding leaving the children alone- That is just an opinion.

If I were one of the Tapas I would certainly feel ill at the thought of people finding out about my stupid actions!

[Lyall]

What are you implying?

That he was careful with his words. Especially around the time of October 2013's Crimewatch.

You think it's impossible the Met could be sued?

[Alfred R Jones]

No. But the case is.

You wrote this:


You or I wouldn't have two of the most formidable legal companies at our disposal would we.


That tends to suggest you believe the McCanns (and not just this case) are a bit special, hence they can go around frightening the poor old police force with their intimidating lawyers.  So why are they so powerful in your view?

[Alfred R Jones]

That he was careful with his words. Especially around the time of October 2013's Crimewatch.

You think it's impossible the Met could be sued?

Sued for what exactly? 

[Benice]

Sadly that is now the case.  The Sunday Times could have done that piece better. I do agree there will be more litigation.
 And  the NSY have not said WE HAVE LOOKED AT ALL THE EVIDNCE AND CAN SAY The family are not involved.

They are not suspects at this time...

Maybe SY assumed that most people -  having heard his statement - had the intelligence to work it out for themselves that such a statement would not be possible unless SY  had looked at all the evidence before coming to that decision.   It's not rocket science.

The McCanns and their friends are neither suspects or persons of interest to SY or the PJ.   Fact.