The tapas group and the 'reconstitution' that was never to take place.

[Angelo222]

OK then, tell me how taking part in a reconstruction would have demonstrated the McCanns innocence?  Simply the act of taking part, or would more have been required, and if so - what?

But isn't that the whole point Alfredo?  The reconstruction involving the original participants was a necessary exercise to establish who was lying through their teeth.

[Carew]

With reference to the cite you have mentioned ... it is worth noting that the intended witnesses took legal advice as a result of the tone of communications received from Portugal ... they were not easily manipulated It seems my posting style is a matter for some criticism from your worthy self and one or two other worthies.

IMO that would appear to indicate that I'm doing something right ... however feel free to continue to attack the messenger, it merely illustrates that you are unable to contradict the message.

poor, illiterate Nationals like the Ciprianos, of whose case I am sure they would have been aware ... but Educated British Nationals who took an informed decision not to participate in a farce.

They would also be well aware that a reconstitution had been refused in Portugal at a time when it would have been of value in the case of a missing child.

So the posting style is an integral part of the point or message itself............and that the weaving in of the insult to morals or intelligence of the opposition serves to demonstrate how unanswerable or difficult to contradict the point is?

The nastier the put-down; the more unanswerable the point.

* makes notes in the margin*

[Alfred R Jones]

But isn't that the whole point Alfredo?  The reconstruction involving the original participants was a necessary exercise to establish who was lying through their teeth.

Which is what I said earlier - the reconstruction was nothing about looking for a child and everything about trying to prove a thesis.  What if no one was lying, have you ever considered that?

[Alfred R Jones]

I'd still love one of you wise guys to let us know how a reconstruction would demonstrate how anyone was lying as opposed to simply mistaken.
Come on, tell us how that would work. 

[faithlilly]

OK then, tell me how taking part in a reconstruction would have demonstrated the McCanns innocence?  Simply the act of taking part, or would more have been required, and if so - what?

Can I point you again to my last but one answer.

[jassi]

I'd still love one of you wise guys to let us know how a reconstruction would demonstrate how anyone was lying as opposed to simply mistaken.
Come on, tell us how that would work.

It seems to that if 'mistakes ' had been identified and corrected, that would have given the police a much clearer picture of events than they actually had.

[Alfred R Jones]

Can I point you again to my last but one answer.

This is your last but one answer - please explain how it answers my question?

Wasn't Rebelo supposed to ge the new broom that swept all that 'Amaral' nonsense away ? What cause did the McCanns and their friends  have for not trusting him ?

I repeat I'd still love one of you wise guys to let us know how a reconstruction would demonstrate how anyone was lying as opposed to simply mistaken.  Come on, tell us how that would work.

[Alfred R Jones]

It seems to that if 'mistakes ' had been identified and corrected, that would have given the police a much clearer picture of events than they actually had.

Sorry, but that doesn't really answer the question.  So, you're allowing for the fact that the Tapas group and Jez Wilkins may have remembered things slightly differently and / or were mistaken, and you're saying a reconstruction would allow these mistakes to be corrected - then what exactly would that demonstrate as to a) who was supposedly lying and b) what had happened to Madeleine?

[jassi]

It would depend on what the 'mistakes' might have been. If it could have been demonstrated that events didn't happen as stated, then they could have been discounted and this might, for example, changed the accepted timeline - as if fact was done much later by SY.

[Brietta]

It seems to that if 'mistakes ' had been identified and corrected, that would have given the police a much clearer picture of events than they actually had.

Do you know if crèche man AKA Tanner man received an invitation to attend the reconstruction? ... if so it would certainly have been interesting to see why he was taking that particular route home.

[jassi]

How could he if his identity wasn't known at the time?
I'm sure SY would have discussed this with him in sufficient detail to be satisfied.

[Brietta]

It would depend on what the 'mistakes' might have been. If it could have been demonstrated that events didn't happen as stated, then they could have been discounted and this might, for example, changed the accepted timeline - as if fact was done much later by SY.

Who somehow managed to achieve a result without recourse to a physical reconstruction.

The wonders of modern technology and computer models combined with good old detection techniques perhaps. 

I would also be of the opinion that there was a measure of cooperation and exchange of information between SY and the PJ, who were reported by residents as walking through areas connected with Madeleine's case doing their own reconstitution prior to Portugal reopening her case. 

[jassi]

We don't know how SY came to that conclusion, so it is wrong to assume that they did a computer simulation in order to do so.

[Alfred R Jones]

It would depend on what the 'mistakes' might have been. If it could have been demonstrated that events didn't happen as stated, then they could have been discounted and this might, for example, changed the accepted timeline - as if fact was done much later by SY.

Re: the bit in bold - I genuinely do not see how this could have been demonstrated be re-enactment.  The timeline hangs together quite cohesively when you look at everyone's statements as a whole.  In fact, what it reminds me of is one of those David Hockney "joiners" - where he photographs an area of the same subject and pieces them all together - some of the images don't quite marry up exactly but the overall impression is pretty accurate.

(Not actually by Hockney but the same principle)

[pathfinder73]

Who somehow managed to achieve a result without recourse to a physical reconstruction.

The wonders of modern technology and computer models combined with good old detection techniques perhaps. 

I would also be of the opinion that there was a measure of cooperation and exchange of information between SY and the PJ, who were reported by residents as walking through areas connected with Madeleine's case doing their own reconstitution prior to Portugal reopening her case.

A detective finds hidden or unknown information. A reconstruction with all the actual witnesses involved is a tool to achieve that objective.