Author Topic: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?  (Read 111004 times)

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Offline Carana

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #45 on: April 30, 2014, 06:13:17 PM »
Your suggestion was that now they were a democracy it might lead to more modern policing techniques. The implication being they were behind the times.

Yes, and?

Offline Lace

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #46 on: April 30, 2014, 06:18:17 PM »
In case one of their friends came round. Eddie was sniffing outside the parents bedroom not the patio lounge entrance. Exit possibility: wardrobe - bedroom door - balcony. Somebody coming. Hide in flower bed. After they've gone. Moved from flower bed.

Don't you think the garden area would have been searched in case Madeleine was hiding there?

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #47 on: April 30, 2014, 06:48:53 PM »
Don't you think the garden area would have been searched in case Madeleine was hiding there?

I suppose if abduction hadn't been the word of the moment, more searching may have taken place...
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline John

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #48 on: April 30, 2014, 06:59:24 PM »
I suppose if abduction hadn't been the word of the moment, more searching may have taken place...

That's true, they were searching for a kid who had supposedly woke and wandered and not one who was dead.  But wait a moment, wasn't Kate convinced from the first moment that she had been taken and later ended up searching in dumpsters...   
« Last Edit: April 30, 2014, 07:05:58 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Cornelius

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Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #49 on: April 30, 2014, 07:11:25 PM »
Yes, and?

I doubt you are that dim that you cannot work it out.

Offline Carana

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #50 on: April 30, 2014, 07:53:46 PM »
I doubt you are that dim that you cannot work it out.

I haven't a clue what you're talking about. I raised the issue as to whether modern policing methods were likely to be implemented overnight in the aftermath of overthrowing a fascist state.

My view is that no state can throw out the whole of the old guard overnight, nor even the juniors who have grown up with it.

It's one thing to change the legal system and another to implement change in the culture of institutions. The latter takes even more time and investment.

Portgual seems to be moving forward, and it is no doubt not an easy task, particularly in a difficult economic climate. I see positive changes compared to even a few years ago, but everything takes time and I wish them well.

But I still don't understand your point.

Offline Carana

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #51 on: April 30, 2014, 07:58:16 PM »
I suppose if abduction hadn't been the word of the moment, more searching may have taken place...

Wouldn't it be the job of a mature police force to consider and investigate all possibilities, whatever the family or the media were saying?


Offline pathfinder73

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #52 on: April 30, 2014, 08:56:46 PM »
Don't you think the garden area would have been searched in case Madeleine was hiding there?

The garden was searched when the alarm was raised. Nobody was in the flower bed when the alarm was raised.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #53 on: April 30, 2014, 09:40:27 PM »
Wouldn't it be the job of a mature police force to consider and investigate all possibilities, whatever the family or the media were saying?

Ah so it is job of the police to disbelieve the family...
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Cariad

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Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #54 on: April 30, 2014, 09:54:20 PM »
No country is perfect, is it? Hopefully, freedom of the press in mature democracies is to strive to ensure accountability, not to cover up for the lack of it.

Absolutely not. I do get a bit fed up of Britain being held up as the epitome of a  democratic society. Our press seems pretty corrupt too.

I wouldn't say we're much better or worse than other western countries.

Cornelius

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Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #55 on: May 01, 2014, 09:47:20 AM »
I haven't a clue what you're talking about. I raised the issue as to whether modern policing methods were likely to be implemented overnight in the aftermath of overthrowing a fascist state.

My view is that no state can throw out the whole of the old guard overnight, nor even the juniors who have grown up with it.

It's one thing to change the legal system and another to implement change in the culture of institutions. The latter takes even more time and investment.

Portgual seems to be moving forward, and it is no doubt not an easy task, particularly in a difficult economic climate. I see positive changes compared to even a few years ago, but everything takes time and I wish them well.

But I still don't understand your point.

Then my own presumption about you was sadly incorrect. You clearly think 34 years was not long enough?

Offline colombosstogey

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #56 on: May 01, 2014, 03:43:39 PM »


As to the  parents disposing  of their dead child's body,   I can't think of anything that makes that part of his thesis  plausible  ...  it seems incomprehensible to me that these clearly loving parents could carry out such a callous and cold hearted act


Michael Kumars mother cried abduction and left her dead sons body in a wood to be mauled/eaten by wild animals.

The McCanns are not normal people though are they, they are both doctors and used to dealing with death.

Whether or not they could carry it out is another thing.

However, I dont think they would have callously dumped her body somewhere. There was no rush to do so if they needed to.

They were not suspects they cried abduction no screamed abduction and the police were looking at that avenue and whether she had wondered off.

They could have moved her or someone could have for them. Its not far from Portugual to UK about 2 hours flight after all.

who is to say really how someone would deal with it self preservation is very strong in a human beings make up.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #57 on: May 01, 2014, 03:50:13 PM »
Michael Kumars mother cried abduction and left her dead sons body in a wood to be mauled/eaten by wild animals.

The McCanns are not normal people though are they, they are both doctors and used to dealing with death.

Whether or not they could carry it out is another thing.

However, I dont think they would have callously dumped her body somewhere. There was no rush to do so if they needed to.

They were not suspects they cried abduction no screamed abduction and the police were looking at that avenue and whether she had wondered off.

They could have moved her or someone could have for them. Its not far from Portugual to UK about 2 hours flight after all.

who is to say really how someone would deal with it self preservation is very strong in a human beings make up.

Looks like their cries of abduction were genuine...according to SY

Offline Carana

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #58 on: May 01, 2014, 07:12:30 PM »
Michael Kumars mother cried abduction and left her dead sons body in a wood to be mauled/eaten by wild animals.

The McCanns are not normal people though are they, they are both doctors and used to dealing with death.

Whether or not they could carry it out is another thing.

However, I dont think they would have callously dumped her body somewhere. There was no rush to do so if they needed to.

They were not suspects they cried abduction no screamed abduction and the police were looking at that avenue and whether she had wondered off.

They could have moved her or someone could have for them. Its not far from Portugual to UK about 2 hours flight after all.

who is to say really how someone would deal with it self preservation is very strong in a human beings make up.

So... let's see. After recuperating the body from the beach in the spotlight of the world's media, they find a kindly hitherto unknown local to store it in their freezer for a month or more. As one does. They then ask for it back and move it around in their car for some reason. They then change their minds and decide that it's far easier to get someone to agree to carry it in a suitcase on an easyJet flight back to the UK past airport x-rays and sniffer dogs.

Hmmm.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?
« Reply #59 on: May 01, 2014, 07:15:46 PM »
So... let's see. After recuperating the body from the beach in the spotlight of the world's media, they find a kindly hitherto unknown local to store it in their freezer for a month or more. As one does. They then ask for it back and move it around in their car for some reason. They then change their minds and decide that it's far easier to get someone to agree to carry it in a suitcase on an easyJet flight back to the UK past airport x-rays and sniffer dogs.

Hmmm.

then after pulling off the perfect crime leaving no evidence lobby the uk police to open up the case again so they can be re investgated