Amaral's Hypothesis - credible or not?

[jassi]

So you would conclude that SY are wasting their time using their dogs to assist in their digging?

[faithlilly]

Prompted by the new GNR dog thread to do a little reading regarding the searches which took place in Praia Da Luz in the aftermath of Madeleine’s disappearance, my belief that Dr Amaral’s theory was wrong has been totally reinforced. 

If the reports in the files detailing the searches which took place are accurate, there is absolutely no way that Madeleine’s body could have been temporarily concealed for removal at a later date. 

The detail contained in this part of the files rules the parents out and indeed would rule out that a child's body was concealed anywhere near the holiday apartment at that time.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GNR_SNIFFER.htm

Weren't the sniffer dogs brought in to follow the scent  of a live child ?

[Brietta]

Weren't the sniffer dogs brought in to follow the scent  of a live child ?

There is a new thread for discussion on the GNR dogs ... this one is about Dr Amaral's theory. 

My reference is to the number and nature of the searches undertaken and the areas searched. 

imo the GNR pulled out all the stops in the search for what they thought was a wandering child, I doubt if they would have ignored the finding of a child's body because of that.

If the searches are as thorough as reported in the files, and I have no reason to think they are not a correct record of events ... there is no doubt in my mind that they contribute nothing to support Dr Amaral's theory ... and I have no doubt that Dr Amaral's theory is wrong.

[faithlilly]

There is a new thread for discussion on the GNR dogs ... this one is about Dr Amaral's theory. 

My reference is to the number and nature of the searches undertaken and the areas searched. 

imo the GNR pulled out all the stops in the search for what they thought was a wandering child, I doubt if they would have ignored the finding of a child's body because of that.

If the searches are as thorough as reported in the files, and I have no reason to think they are not a correct record of events ... there is no doubt in my mind that they contribute nothing to support Dr Amaral's theory ... and I have no doubt that Dr Amaral's theory is wrong.

Amaral's thesis is certainly unproven but as to it being wrong, only time will tell us that.

ETA  If the dogs are trained to track a live child would they alert to a dead, concealed one ?

[Brietta]

So you would conclude that SY are wasting their time using their dogs to assist in their digging?

I'm presuming your query is addressed to me.

No ... I do not make that conclusion

a:  I do not know what information NSY are working to
b:  I said I do not believe Madeleine's body was hidden in the areas searched by the Portuguese police in May 2007
c:  I do not think Dr Amaral's theory is feasible

[Brietta]

Amaral's thesis is certainly unproven but as to it being wrong, only time will tell us that.

If Dr Amarals thesis had any basis, he would have been able to ensure that the Drs McCann would face the full rigours of the law based on his inquiries.

There was no evidence to enable him to do that ... therefore his theory was wrong because there is no evidence to support it.

[jassi]

His enquiries were cut short, of course, otherwise who knows where they might have led.

[faithlilly]

If Dr Amarals thesis had any basis, he would have been able to ensure that the Drs McCann would face the full rigours of the law based on his inquiries.

There was no evidence to enable him to do that ... therefore his theory was wrong because there is no evidence to support it.

Amaral was taken off of the case. Who knows what would have happened if he had been allowed to bring the Smiths back to PDL, the reconstruction had taken place etc, etc, etc.

[Brietta]

Amaral was taken off of the case. Who knows what would have happened if he had been allowed to bring the Smiths back to PDL, the reconstruction had taken place etc, etc, etc.

Pity he didn't take the opportunity to have a reconstruction when the majority of the players were still in PDL, might even have managed to catch a few holidaymakers who were eye witnesses.
Then he would have to have had the airport closed to do that???

What could Mr Smith add to anything?
He was aware that his identification of Dr Gerry McCann was mistaken ... exactly as the McClusky identification of the same event was mistaken.

Unless Dr Amaral was prepared to formulate a new theory based on the information available to him he would have been unable to progress the case any further than he did.

As far as we are led to believe the current investigation is taking place because the PJ and the Met used information available to Dr Amaral in 2007 ~ but ignored by him because he had become convinced of Madeleine's parents' guilt.

[Wonderfulspam]

Pity he didn't take the opportunity to have a reconstruction when the majority of the players were still in PDL, might even have managed to catch a few holidaymakers who were eye witnesses.
Then he would have to have had the airport closed to do that???

What could Mr Smith add to anything?
He was aware that his identification of Dr Gerry McCann was mistaken ... exactly as the McClusky identification of the same event was mistaken.

Unless Dr Amaral was prepared to formulate a new theory based on the information available to him he would have been unable to progress the case any further than he did.

As far as we are led to believe the current investigation is taking place because the PJ and the Met used information available to Dr Amaral in 2007 ~ but ignored by him because he had become convinced of Madeleine's parents' guilt.

He wasn't wrong.

[Wonderfulspam]

On what basis do you claim that the Portuguese investigators were experts...as I understand amaral had almost no experience of a crime of this kind...unless you count the cipriano case where amaral received a criminal conviction for his role in the case...hardly the mark of an expert....as I understand the team were woefully inexperienced

What crime?

[Albertini]

your claim that the PJ are experts shows how little you understand the real facts in this case. Had they really been experts carried out a proper investigation we would not be here now. They have been described as incompetent and their investigation "bungled" for good raeson

Who in authority  has described it as incompetent and bungled other than the McCann's mouthpiece?

[Mr Gray]

Who in authority  has described it as incompetent and bungled other than the McCann's mouthpiece?

on whos authority is amaral et al an expert on this type of case....whats his track record...oh yes...amaral was sacked

[Eleanor]

According to some it was Amaral's job to sit in the office and to shuffle statements and other paper work, and not his job to decide which way the investigation should go.  Hence it was nothing to do with him if the Officers supposedly under him went off and did their own thing thereby all arriving at the conclusion that The McCanns done it.
So is his thesis just their opinion, or is it his?

Sadly, from what I have seen, he didn't do a lot of coordinating.

[stephen25000]

According to some it was Amaral's job to sit in the office and to shuffle statements and other paper work, and not his job to decide which way the investigation should go.  Hence it was nothing to do with him if the Officers supposedly under him went off and did their own thing thereby all arriving at the conclusion that The McCanns done it.
So is his thesis just their opinion, or is it his?

Sadly, from what I have seen, he didn't do a lot of coordinating.

I find it quite fascinating the lengths some people go to to attack Amaral. Nothing he has said or stated hasn't been echoed by other people, repeatedly, yet he seems to be the paramount focus of certain. It would make an interesting psychological study into why he has become the focus of some peoples hatred.

Meanwhile, how would you know Eleanor what Amaral was doing. Were you there ?