Author Topic: So what is the evidence for abduction?  (Read 172790 times)

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Offline Eleanor

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #240 on: September 23, 2014, 05:07:03 PM »
I regret Latin is all Greek to me as it were, dear sir.
You seem to be struggling here if I may say, your basic premise is erroneous; like Moses you supposes erroneously.
I was merely pointing out what has been said vis a vis lines of investigation that have been owned up to so to speak and the fact that there are likely others that have not been owned up to. The Portuguese who it must be said have primacy in this case are revealing very little. Believe it or not I will not cheer should the McCanns ever be found guilty of anything. I do however find all the haraz the case generates quite bizarre and disproportionate considering the number of children who will have been abused, murdered , shot, starved to death and blown to bits quite unremarked since 3rd May 2007.

Bully for you.  Which of those do you think happened to Madeleine?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #241 on: September 23, 2014, 05:58:04 PM »
I regret Latin is all Greek to me as it were, dear sir.
You seem to be struggling here if I may say, your basic premise is erroneous; like Moses you supposes erroneously.
I was merely pointing out what has been said vis a vis lines of investigation that have been owned up to so to speak and the fact that there are likely others that have not been owned up to. The Portuguese who it must be said have primacy in this case are revealing very little. Believe it or not I will not cheer should the McCanns ever be found guilty of anything. I do however find all the haraz the case generates quite bizarre and disproportionate considering the number of children who will have been abused, murdered , shot, starved to death and blown to bits quite unremarked since 3rd May 2007.

The fact that Redwood has said that the McCannns are not suspects leads me to believe they are not,,,it is you who is fantasising that they may be...you find the attention the case generates bizarre but you actively post and are therefore part of that bizarre behaviour...

Alfred R Jones

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Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #242 on: September 23, 2014, 06:02:02 PM »
The fact that Redwood has said that the McCannns are not suspects leads me to believe they are not,,,it is you who is fantasising that they may be...you find the attention the case generates bizarre but you actively post and are therefore part of that bizarre behaviour...
nail on head!

Offline xtina

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #243 on: September 23, 2014, 06:42:16 PM »
nail on head!



why has it fell off.....


wasn't it said the mccs were not suspects by P.J............but they was....wasn't they..
Always listen to both sides of the story before you judge.

The first storyteller you will always find has modified the story, for there benefit BE WISE.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #244 on: September 23, 2014, 06:44:28 PM »


why has it fell off.....


wasn't it said the mccs were not suspects by P.J............but they was....wasn't they..

we don't take any notice of what the PJ say

Alfred R Jones

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Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #245 on: September 23, 2014, 06:52:38 PM »


why has it fell off.....


wasn't it said the mccs were not suspects by P.J............but they was....wasn't they..
Are you going for the prize for the greatest number of grammatical mistakes in the shortest sentence?

Offline Eleanor

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #246 on: September 23, 2014, 06:54:00 PM »


why has it fell off.....


wasn't it said the mccs were not suspects by P.J............but they was....wasn't they..

They were, weren't, weren't they.

 I am sure that you would want to know that.

Offline Brietta

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #247 on: September 23, 2014, 06:56:20 PM »
You've listed 6 points there, and NOT even 1 proof there is any link to MADELEINE'S DISAPPEARANCE.

Now as to denial........................

How do you know Madeleine did not die in the apartment  ?

If you intend to burgle a property or kidnap a child it is a good idea to familiarise yourself with the comings and goings around the property you wish to enter. 
To that end an observation post can be quite a handy thing from which to 'case the joint'. 

It was reported that a holidaymaker made the police aware of cigarette butts on the balcony immediately opposite apartment 5a.
He later told the press, "Those butts could have provided the breakthrough in the case, but I couldn't get the police to listen to me,"
http://www.courier.co.uk/Mayfield-director-s-Madeleine-McCann-evidence/story-17002971-detail/story.html

Who knows the significance of these discarded cigarette ends, could have been something, could have been nothing.  Nobody bothered to check if there was DNA on them which could have helped the inquiry at some stage into Madeleine McCann’s disappearance: is it any wonder there was no evidence pointing to anything in her case, if there was a culture of ignoring the obvious.

 -SNIPPED - On the day of our departure we had to move out of our apartment and Mark Warner gave us another to use during the day until we left.

It was across the road from the McCann's apartment and the public balcony overlooked the side of their building and the road. You could actually see the front and back of the building from that view point. I noticed on the balcony that there was a pile of cigarette butts as if there had been someone stood there for some time smoking. I thought that was odd , and it could have been someone watching the McCann's apartment to monitor their comings and goings.
http://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GRAHAM-MCKENZIE.htm


"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #248 on: September 23, 2014, 07:27:44 PM »
The fact that Redwood has said that the McCannns are not suspects leads me to believe they are not,,,it is you who is fantasising that they may be...you find the attention the case generates bizarre but you actively post and are therefore part of that bizarre behaviour...

I am merely pointing out the game ain't over til the last putt is sunk. The last putt hasn't been sunk yet......whichever camp you may perceive yourself to be in. Fantasy cometh not into it whatever you may prefer to think.
I admit to being part of the bizarre behaviour having chosen this site as the basis of a thesis on irrational behaviour  8(>((
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Eleanor

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #249 on: September 23, 2014, 07:31:41 PM »
I am merely pointing out the game ain't over til the last putt is sunk. The last putt hasn't been sunk yet......whichever camp you may perceive yourself to be in. Fantasy cometh not into it whatever you may prefer to think.
I admit to being part of the bizarre behaviour having chosen this site as the basis of a thesis on irrational behaviour  8(>((

You stick with that, our kid.  There isn't anywhere else.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #250 on: September 23, 2014, 07:33:02 PM »
I am merely pointing out the game ain't over til the last putt is sunk. The last putt hasn't been sunk yet......whichever camp you may perceive yourself to be in. Fantasy cometh not into it whatever you may prefer to think.
I admit to being part of the bizarre behaviour having chosen this site as the basis of a thesis on irrational behaviour  8(>((

It might not be over for you....but I was round the course and in the clubhouse a long time ago whilst you were still looking for lost balls...The McCanns are not implicated

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #251 on: September 23, 2014, 07:47:31 PM »
I think it was mentioned in the files, Sadie, I don't recall if it was a pre-McCann guest or someone who rented the flat after them.  But I think I read that it was reported to maintenance that the security light was out - I seem to recall that it was fixed.

Margaret Hall provided details to make an efit ... http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-nannys-new-sketch-329189

This chap looks quite nice and friendly....My Aunt recons this is Benny from Cross roads!

"Am I the only one with a bent enough mind to think this:
With all the dodgy geezers, ne'er do wells, chuggers, spotty herberts etc hanging about outside apartment 5A why were the GNR not called out for crowd control duties?"

Not to mention the comings and goings of the Tapas baby listeners! it was indeed a busy little street that night, perhaps the locals thought it was a new wave MARDI gras. It is a wonder that all the abductors NEVER got fed up all that waiting around...

Snip 
Alice
"The Portuguese who it must be said have primacy in this case are revealing very little. Believe it or not I will not cheer should the McCanns ever be found guilty of anything. I do however find all the haraz the case generates quite bizarre and disproportionate considering the number of children who will have been abused, murdered , shot, starved to death and blown to bits quite unremarked since 3rd May 2007."

My sentiments exactly!


We must have motive-opportunity and means for the abduction...Nothing yet!
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Mr Moderator

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #252 on: September 23, 2014, 10:14:11 PM »
On topic posts if you please.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #253 on: September 23, 2014, 10:20:07 PM »
It might not be over for you....but I was round the course and in the clubhouse a long time ago whilst you were still looking for lost balls...The McCanns are not implicated

Oh gosh! you read it here first folks. By implication of his statement Officer Dibble Davel has solved the case and two police forces are now wasting their time.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Mr Gray

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #254 on: September 23, 2014, 10:21:30 PM »
Oh gosh! you read it here first folks. By implication of his statement Officer Dibble Davel has solved the case and two police forces are now wasting their time.

you're still thrashing in the long grass