Author Topic: So what is the evidence for abduction?  (Read 157883 times)

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Offline mercury

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #420 on: July 04, 2015, 09:39:44 PM »
They believe it's a criminal act. What is? The taking of Madeleine alive during a gap in the timeline. Who did it? A stranger. He doesn't say they believe it happened.

Exactamundo

ferryman

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Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #421 on: July 04, 2015, 09:42:15 PM »
Wrong again

The original investigation investigated many abduction leads

(I am) bang-on right ...

ferryman

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Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #422 on: July 04, 2015, 09:53:12 PM »
Did you reread my post my chuckling friend? I await your apology for calling me dishonest. Unless you prefer me to report you?

I give you credit for acknowledging the possibility that the McCanns are innocent.

As for Andy Redwood, he said

Dismissing conspiracy theories about Madeleine's parents' involvement, Redwood said he believed the girl's disappearance was the result of "a criminal act by a stranger".

The words in speech marks are obviously verbatim and what he actually said
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ferryman

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Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #423 on: July 04, 2015, 09:54:33 PM »
Oh thanks, well, what has been stopping the Mccanns giving truthful interviews then for 8 years, they are as slimy as a bucket of shrimps

What has been hindering your ability to grasp that everything the McCanns have said has been truthful?

Offline mercury

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #424 on: July 04, 2015, 09:54:49 PM »
I give you credit for acknowledging the possibility that the McCanns are innocent.

As for Andy Redwood, he said

Dismissing conspiracy theories about Madeleine's parents' involvement, Redwood said he believed the girl's disappearance was the result of "a criminal act by a stranger".

The words in speech marks are obviously verbatim and what he actually sad

Nope, try again

Offline jassi

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #425 on: July 04, 2015, 09:57:07 PM »
What has been hindering your ability to grasp that everything the McCanns have said has been truthful?


How can you possibly know that?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

ferryman

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Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #426 on: July 04, 2015, 09:58:12 PM »
Obvious lies from their mouths, good enough for you?

What the McCanns say is good enough for me, yes.

Who first mentioned Madeleine crying?

Oh yes, the McCanns ....

ferryman

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Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #427 on: July 04, 2015, 09:59:45 PM »

How can you possibly know that?

Careful analysis of what they've said.

Scorn was poured on Gerry for insisting that the shutters could be opened from the outside.

Then it turned out he was telling the truth.

And so on ....

Offline mercury

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #428 on: July 04, 2015, 10:00:51 PM »

How can you possibly know that?

it's a  belief" nothing more I imagine, unless FM was there at the time, like all the time around them!!

To be patronised  debased and belittled and "told" "truths" based on just a belief is a bit wonky IMO

Offline mercury

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #429 on: July 04, 2015, 10:02:16 PM »
What the McCanns say is good enough for me, yes.

Who first mentioned Madeleine crying?

Oh yes, the McCanns ....

bully for you then,shame we have countless examples in black and white
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #430 on: July 04, 2015, 10:04:05 PM »
he might have been talking of any evidence in any case there, steady on, don't put words in his mouth,and besides, where IS the evidence?
I only quoted him verbatim, not a worded added, nor removed.  The Met clearly believes there is evidence to support their view, that you don't is your problem.

Offline mercury

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #431 on: July 04, 2015, 10:05:08 PM »
I only quoted him verbatim, not a worded added, nor removed.  The Met clearly believes there is evidence to support their view, that you don't is your problem.

So wrong again, sigh
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Alfred R Jones

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Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #432 on: July 04, 2015, 10:06:16 PM »
Please could you provide a link for that quote? He didn't say that on the video we saw. I'm still waiting for an apology re your accusation that I'm dishonest;


Quote from: G-Unit on Today at 09:32:12 PM
They believe it's a criminal act. What is? The taking of Madeleine alive during a gap in the timeline. Who did it? A stranger. He doesn't say they believe it happened.

How characteristically dishonest of you to omit the word stranger, used by Andy Redwood
"it is our belief, as experienced investigators - on the evidence, that, um that you know, that that, that is as a criminal act - and that has been, you know, undertaken by by a stranger

ferryman

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Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #433 on: July 04, 2015, 10:07:22 PM »
Please could you provide a link for that quote? He didn't say that on the video we saw. I'm still waiting for an apology re your accusation that I'm dishonest;


Quote from: G-Unit on Today at 09:32:12 PM
They believe it's a criminal act. What is? The taking of Madeleine alive during a gap in the timeline. Who did it? A stranger. He doesn't say they believe it happened.

How characteristically dishonest of you to omit the word stranger, used by Andy Redwood

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2012/apr/25/madeleine-mccann-case-reopen-call

Scotland Yard is calling for the investigation into Madeleine McCann's disappearance to be reopened, as detectives revealed there is evidence to suggest she might be alive.

Senior detectives within the Metropolitan police have been reviewing the Portuguese inquiry into the girl's disappearance for a year. On Wednesday – as the fifth anniversary of her disappearance approaches – police released an age-enhanced image of what she might look like now.

Madeleine, whose ninth birthday is on 12 May, disappeared from a Portuguese resort on 3 May 2007.

Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood said he believed she was abducted by a stranger, adding that there were 195 "investigative opportunities".

Redwood said he "genuinely" believed Madeleine could be alive, though the team is following an equal line of inquiry that she might now be dead.

The officer is leading a team of 37 detectives dedicated solely to carrying out an active investigative review of all the evidence in the case.

They are sifting through 40,000 pieces of material, and within them Redwood said officers have identified 195 historic investigative opportunities.

He said the team was developing new information about what happened to Madeleine five years ago, when she disappeared from her parents' holiday villa in Praia de Luz.

"We are currently developing material which we believe represents genuine new information," said Redwood.

He said officers had carried out a forensic analysis of the timeline of events, and had identified opportunities when the child could have been taken in a criminal act.

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Dismissing conspiracy theories about Madeleine's parents' involvement, Redwood said he believed the girl's disappearance was the result of "a criminal act by a stranger".

He appealed directly to anyone who might know where Madeleine was to contact the police.

The Met team is working with a Portuguese review team in Oporto, which is separate from the original inquiry and, said Redwood, was as committed as Scotland Yard to getting to the bottom of what happened to Madeleine.

"The Metropolitan police service wants the investigation reopened," he said. But he added that the decision had to be made by the Portuguese.

The Yard team is passing its information directly to the Portuguese review team. Redwood has visited Portugal seven times in the past year.

The review was set up last year on the fourth anniversary of the child's disappearance after Madeleine's parents, Kate and Gerry McCann, appealed to the prime minister, David Cameron, for Scotland Yard to look at the case.

Redwood said: "We have approached the material with a completely open mind. We have sought to put Madeleine McCann at the heart of everything we do."
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Offline Anna

Re: So what is the evidence for abduction?
« Reply #434 on: July 04, 2015, 10:09:13 PM »

Topic Please, without insults or personal comments, if you please. Thank you
« Last Edit: July 04, 2015, 10:13:17 PM by Anna »
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