What is the evidence for burglary/murder ?

[Brietta]

Evidence for burglary ~ the recent burglary at 5L and the attempted burglary described by Mrs Fenn when the intruder gained entry via the window ~ supports the evidence of the raised shutter and the open window being either an entry or an emergency exit point.
 
The man who gained entry to the holiday homes of other Britons did not seem to be particularly interested in stealing objects.
 
The forensic examination leaves more questions than answers.

The apparent reluctance of the police to link burglaries and assualts on children imo closed down a viable line of inquiry which should have been pursued to its conclusion.

Evidence for murder ~ none. 

The forensic examination provided no evidence to sustain this theory.     

Similarly ~ Eddie and Keela’s alerts do not support this theory.

IMO there is neither evidence for burglary or murder ~ the window and shutter indicate unauthorised interference by person unknown.

[Brietta]

My post was aimed at the "How" and the "Who" rather than the detail of the "What". Clearly you chose the more fanciful interpretation.

Your post was an invitation to speculate on methods in which a child might have been killed. 

[stephen25000]

Evidence for burglary ~ the recent burglary at 5L and the attempted burglary described by Mrs Fenn when the intruder gained entry via the window ~ supports the evidence of the raised shutter and the open window being either an entry or an emergency exit point.
 
The man who gained entry to the holiday homes of other Britons did not seem to be particularly interested in stealing objects.
 
The forensic examination leaves more questions than answers.

The apparent reluctance of the police to link burglaries and assualts on children imo closed down a viable line of inquiry which should have been pursued to its conclusion.

Evidence for murder ~ none. 

The forensic examination provided no evidence to sustain this theory.     

Similarly ~ Eddie and Keela’s alerts do not support this theory.

IMO there is neither evidence for burglary or murder ~ the window and shutter indicate unauthorised interference by person unknown.

Evidence for burglary of mccann apartment, NONE.

'Nothing of value was taken'

Now who said that ?

As for the shutter and window.....................

Well no proof either had been jemmied or opened. >@@(*&)

[Brietta]

Evidence for burglary of mccann apartment, NONE.

'Nothing of value was taken'

Now who said that ?

As for the shutter and window.....................

Well no proof either had been jemmied or opened. >@@(*&)

There you have it when you pick up on the statement ~ 'Nothing of value was taken' ~ proof of abduction, not murder ~ as Madeleine McCann is obviously a very valued member of the McCann household and extended family.

Your use of the 'jemmied' situation is rather tiresome.
Neither Dr Kate McCann or Dr Gerry McCann used that phrase.  It is attributed to another person many miles removed from the event in time and geography. 
Of course you know, but choose to ignore that in preference of reinforcing discredited forum myths.

[stephen25000]

There you have it when you pick up on the statement ~ 'Nothing of value was taken' ~ proof of abduction, not murder ~ as Madeleine McCann is obviously a very valued member of the McCann household and extended family.

Your use of the 'jemmied' situation is rather tiresome.
Neither Dr Kate McCann or Dr Gerry McCann used that phrase.  It is attributed to another person many miles removed from the event in time and geography. 
Of course you know, but choose to ignore that in preference of reinforcing discredited forum myths.

As you well know the jemmied phrase comes from clan mccann, and is not a forum myth, unlike the abduction.

Now Brietta, who has said on here Madeleine was murdered ?

is that one of your forum myths ?  >@@(*&)

'Trish Cameron: They last checked at half past nine; they were all sound asleep, sleeping; windows shut; shutters shut. Kate went back at ten o'clock to check; the front door was lying open; the window had been tampered with; the shutters had been jammied open... or whatever you call it, and Madeleine was missing.'

[Victoria]

According to Kate's father, you are wrong Brietta.

Brian Healey 05/05/07: "Gerry told me when they went back the shutters to the room were broken, they were jemmied up and she was gone. She'd been taken from the chalet. The door was open."

A chalet huh? Maybe that's where the fridge was kept!

Or maybe, in the heat of the moment, fairly understandable mistakes were made, things miscommunication and misremembered...

[Mr Gray]

OK here we go
DCI Redwood of the MPS suggested that Madeleine McCann may not have left the apartment alive.
That presupposes  the possibility she died in the apartment.
Her death may have been due to: Natural causes, accidental death self inflicted, accidental death inflicted by person or persons unknown, manslaughter by person or persons unknown or murder by person or persons unknown. The first two seem unlikely.
So if the cause is by person or persons unknown by what manner or means did they enter the apartment.

unlocked patio door...
spare key to locked front door
Shutter forced up from outside...it has been shown this can be done without any damage..and window opened

[icabodcrane]

 Everyone  the McCanns spoke to on the phone that night    uniformly  told the press that the shutters had been tampered with in some way  ...   jemmied,  broken,  and even  'smashed'  were the descriptions given 

The only logical explanation for this  'uniformity' is that the McCanns told everyone they spoke to that is what happened

It's silly to pretend otherwise

[Eleanor]

In Glasgow, "Jemmied" simply means broken into.  It always has.

[stephen25000]

As a further reminder for some, whether you use the word 'jemmied' or the equivalent thereof, the source for that has come from the mccanns.

It has become a hallmark of this case, that when things don't go their way, we have the usual cliches of  the mccanns or associates being 'misquoted' or it was  'out of context'.

It really doesn't wash, in any sense.

[Silkywhiskers]

As a further reminder for some, whether you use the word 'jemmied' or the equivalent thereof, the source for that has come from the mccanns.

It has become a hallmark of this case, that when things don't go their way, we have the usual cliches of  the mccanns or associates being 'misquoted' or it was  'out of context'.

It really doesn't wash, in any sense.

Or my personal favorite, "mistranslated".

This despite most Portugese can speak and read English, and the lawyers the McCanns hired were bilingual.

But no, we still have "lost in translation" floated as some sort of wierd 18th century explanation for the mysterious goings on.

Please.  8-)(--)