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Offline Eleanor

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #105 on: June 12, 2014, 11:48:37 AM »
Let's stick to the point Eleanor.

You claimed that Kate had been interviewed but the PJ hadn't recorded her answers. I have demonstrated this is untrue.

Now do you have any evidence to support your claim or do you wish to withdraw it and admit you were consciously trying to mislead ?

No you have not demonstrated that what I said is untrue.  And I never consciously try to mislead.  It is the likes of you who are the masters of that. 

Now, perhaps you can tell me why so many of The Arguida Questions are phrased in such a fashion as to leave no doubt that they had been asked before.  Are these questions listed in this interview that you say is in The Files?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #106 on: June 12, 2014, 11:55:51 AM »
No you have not demonstrated that what I said is untrue.  And I never consciously try to mislead.  It is the likes of you who are the masters of that. 

Now, perhaps you can tell me why so many of The Arguida Questions are phrased in such a fashion as to leave no doubt that they had been asked before.  Are these questions listed in this interview that you say is in The Files?

You are either consciously trying to mislead or simply do not understand the context of the questions.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Eleanor

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #107 on: June 12, 2014, 11:58:08 AM »
You are either consciously trying to mislead or simply do not understand the context of the questions.

In Your Opinion.  Allegedly.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #108 on: June 12, 2014, 12:02:30 PM »
In Your Opinion.  Allegedly.

It's not my opinion, it is a demonstrable fact.

You have either consciously put forward a scenario, knowing it was false or didn't understand when Kate answered that she could not add to what she had already said she meant in previous, recorded statements.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline jassi

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #109 on: June 12, 2014, 12:05:44 PM »
No you have not demonstrated that what I said is untrue.  And I never consciously try to mislead.  It is the likes of you who are the masters of that. 

Now, perhaps you can tell me why so many of The Arguida Questions are phrased in such a fashion as to leave no doubt that they had been asked before.  Are these questions listed in this interview that you say is in The Files?

Nothing unusual in that. Police forces the world over repeatedly ask the same questions over and over.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Eleanor

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #110 on: June 12, 2014, 12:23:49 PM »
Maybe it is a question of procedure. The McCanns may have been asked questions when their status was "witness" which had to be asked again when their status changed to "arguida & arguido".
Or the Portuguese Sweeney was trying to fit 'em up then shovel off to the nearest bar jobs a good un done dusted guv.
My money would be on procedure.

At which point they both had a right to refuse.  Gerry didn't refuse and Kate did.  Nothing strange about that, much as some people would like to make it so.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #111 on: June 12, 2014, 01:38:22 PM »
Maybe it is a question of procedure. The McCanns may have been asked questions when their status was "witness" which had to be asked again when their status changed to "arguida & arguido".
Or the Portuguese Sweeney was trying to fit 'em up then shovel off to the nearest bar jobs a good un done dusted guv.
My money would be on procedure.

Any question that may incriminate them could only have been asked after they were made arguido and arguida, in much the same way as a caution works in the UK.

So the McCanns would not have been asked their arguido questions before and Eleanor's claim that Kate had but the PJ had not recorded her answers is patent nonsense.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #112 on: June 12, 2014, 01:45:48 PM »
Maybe it is a question of procedure. The McCanns may have been asked questions when their status was "witness" which had to be asked again when their status changed to "arguida & arguido".
Or the Portuguese Sweeney was trying to fit 'em up then shovel off to the nearest bar jobs a good un done dusted guv.
My money would be on procedure.

ive made this point before....kate may well have been asked and answered some of these question before but the pj were now looking for evidence to use AGAINST the mccanns....kate did the right thing

Offline Brietta

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #113 on: June 12, 2014, 01:47:50 PM »
Any question that may incriminate them could only have been asked after they were made arguido and arguida, in much the same way as a caution works in the UK.

So the McCanns would not have been asked their arguido questions before and Eleanor's claim that Kate had but the PJ had not recorded her answers is patent nonsense.

The Drs McCann were made arguidos just days before the change in Portuguese law came into effect which meant that there had to be evidence before a person could be made arguido or arguida.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline faithlilly

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #114 on: June 12, 2014, 01:50:07 PM »
The Drs McCann were made arguidos just days before the change in Portuguese law came into effect which meant that there had to be evidence before a person could be made arguido or arguida.

All of which changes the premise of my post not one jot.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #115 on: June 12, 2014, 01:53:32 PM »
The Drs McCann were made arguidos just days before the change in Portuguese law came into effect which meant that there had to be evidence before a person could be made arguido or arguida.

amaral knew that if he waited he would not be able to make them arguidos

Offline Eleanor

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #116 on: June 12, 2014, 01:56:01 PM »
Any question that may incriminate them could only have been asked after they were made arguido and arguida, in much the same way as a caution works in the UK.

So the McCanns would not have been asked their arguido questions before and Eleanor's claim that Kate had but the PJ had not recorded her answers is patent nonsense.

This doesn't make sense, I'm afraid.  What is the point in waiting until someone is an Arguido before asking incriminating questions if the Arguido isn't obliged to or going to answer?

In some cases it is the fact that someone refuses to answer that gets them the Arguido status in the first place.

All that Amaral accomplished was to ensure that he would get no more answers.  This is why Kate and Gerry were not submitted to a Rogatory Interview.

And don't tell me he wasn't trying to fit them up because he patently was.

Offline lizzibif

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #117 on: June 12, 2014, 01:57:18 PM »
The Drs McCann were made arguidos just days before the change in Portuguese law came into effect which meant that there had to be evidence before a person could be made arguido or arguida.

They had no evidence then and still no evidence to this day...so not guilty until proven other wise.. when are the doubters going to get this in their heads..

Offline jassi

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #118 on: June 12, 2014, 02:03:18 PM »
No evidence today does not mean no evidence tomorrow.

Doubt will always remain until someone has been convicted in a court of law for whatever it was that happened to her.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline faithlilly

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #119 on: June 12, 2014, 02:18:46 PM »
This doesn't make sense, I'm afraid.  What is the point in waiting until someone is an Arguido before asking incriminating questions if the Arguido isn't obliged to or going to answer?

In some cases it is the fact that someone refuses to answer that gets them the Arguido status in the first place.

All that Amaral accomplished was to ensure that he would get no more answers.  This is why Kate and Gerry were not submitted to a Rogatory Interview.

And don't tell me he wasn't trying to fit them up because he patently was.

Whether it makes sense to you or not that is Portuguese law.

Now back to those questions that the PJ allegedly didn't take a record of !
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?