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icabodcrane

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Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #360 on: June 25, 2014, 05:45:47 PM »
IMO he was being sarcastic - as Kate also was in her one and only reply.

From memory so could be wrong - but wasn't that particular question lifted from some newspaper article?    How professional is that?

We  don't know  why the police asked if Kate had considered giving Madeleine's custody over to a relative

We do  know that neither she nor Gerry anwered  "No"  to that question

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #361 on: June 25, 2014, 05:50:23 PM »
We  don't know  why the police asked if Kate had considered giving Madeleine's custody over to a relative

We do  know that neither she nor Gerry anwered  "No"  to that question
So what do you infer from this then?

ferryman

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Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #362 on: June 25, 2014, 05:51:27 PM »
Not...........?  Oh well, that wouldn't surprise me.

The true sequence of events: Gerry provided the FSS with a saliva sample he said was from Madeleine.

The FSS confirmed that the profile from the saliva was that of a female daughter of the McCanns, but raised a slight doubt that it might have been Amelie's rather than Madeleine's.

That was resolved easily, simply by taking Amelie's DNA and comparing it with the DNA from the saliva.

The two profiles were different, confirming that they had Madeleine's DNA.

Now read this exchange between Amaral and the Portuguese forensic laboratory:

Letter to the National Forensics Institute (INML) from Goncalo Amaral


17th August 2007

The present inquiry is in relation to the investigation of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann on 3rd May from P da L.

The English authorities in possession of elements collected from the family home in Leicestershire, which are being examined in an unidentified laboratory, traced the girl's DNA profile, in annex to this document.

As it is necessary to the investigation we request the following:

1. Whether in the tests done by the INML Madeleine's profile was established?

2. In the case of a positive answer to point 1, that it should be determined whether the girl is the daughter of the parents identified ? Gerald Patrick McCann and Kate Healy.

3. Information about whether the profile obtained by the INML corresponds to the profile traced in the English laboratory, on the request of the British authorities.

4. If there are differences between the English and Portuguese profiles that a report should be drawn up for this inquiry.

5. In the follow-up of point 4, we request to be informed whether in the English profile the girl is the daughter of the McCann couple.

6. Other information that might be of use to the investigation.

Signed G. Amaral
09-Processos Vol IX Page 2419

Vol IX Page 2419


And the bewildered response

Reply from the Forensics Institute (INML) to Goncalo Amaral

22-08-2007


Reply to Queries

- We inform you that none of the samples received by this institute were designated as supposedly belonging to the missing girl and we therefore, cannot reply to this query.


- Samples were studied - hair and a piece of cloth - nuclear DNA profiles only being obtained from 4 samples, which upon comparison with the DNA profiles of Kate and Gerry, could not belong to the girl.

- The samples were then studied using mitochondrial DNA analysis, the same was done for the other samples, giving the results in accordance with our report of 9th July No. 2007/000226 LX-BC.

- As requested in point 5, it was determined that the profile obtained by the British lab could belong to a son/daughter of the McCanns.

- The comparison of the profiles obtained in autossomic STR from Kate and Gerry McCann with the profile obtained was carried out.
Signed


A short while later, the canard broke ...

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #363 on: June 25, 2014, 07:08:57 PM »
There was also some misunderstanding regarding Gerry's relationship to Maddie, with regards to the way she was conceived. IVF.

Sometimes the fathers sperm is used and sometimes it may not, sometimes it may or may not be the mother eggs that are used, either way Maddie is/was his daughter.

But again, the police are quite right to question the parents.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #364 on: June 25, 2014, 07:20:13 PM »
There was also some misunderstanding regarding Gerry's relationship to Maddie, with regards to the way she was conceived. IVF.

Sometimes the fathers sperm is used and sometimes it may not, sometimes it may or may not be the mother eggs that are used, either way Maddie is/was his daughter.

But again, the police are quite right to question the parents.

there was no misunderstanding...apart from the portuguese ragtops

Offline pegasus

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #365 on: June 25, 2014, 07:23:51 PM »
On 6th-7th Sept 2007 did these two witnesses have seperate, or shared, legal representation?

Offline pegasus

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #366 on: June 25, 2014, 08:09:33 PM »
"There are strong arguments for keeping the right to silence. They were set out by the Royal Commission on Criminal Procedure, which concluded in 1981 that it should be retained. It is wrong to assume that only a guilty person chooses to be silent. There are several reasons why an innocent suspect might remain silent - confusion, the need to protect someone else, or even a sense of outrage at the accusation."
http://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2013/oct/21/right-to-silence-civil-rights

icabodcrane

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Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #367 on: June 25, 2014, 08:18:43 PM »
On 6th-7th Sept 2007 did these two witnesses have seperate, or shared, legal representation?

Kate and Gerry you mean  ?

Yes they did

Kate sacked him when they got back to Blighty though and appointed another top Portuguese lawyer to represent her seperately 

Gerry stuck with the original brief

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #368 on: June 25, 2014, 08:31:45 PM »
"There are strong arguments for keeping the right to silence. They were set out by the Royal Commission on Criminal Procedure, which concluded in 1981 that it should be retained. It is wrong to assume that only a guilty person chooses to be silent. There are several reasons why an innocent suspect might remain silent - confusion, the need to protect someone else, or even a sense of outrage at the accusation."
http://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2013/oct/21/right-to-silence-civil-rights

It seems that some posters on here find it totally accepatable for amaral to play every legal (and illegal) trick in the book but the mccanns have to play by the queensbury rules

Offline pegasus

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #369 on: June 25, 2014, 08:36:21 PM »
Kate and Gerry you mean  ?

Yes they did

Kate sacked him when they got back to Blighty though and appointed another top Portuguese lawyer to represent her seperately 

Gerry stuck with the original brief
Thankyou.

Offline pegasus

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #370 on: June 25, 2014, 08:47:43 PM »
It seems that some posters on here find it totally accepatable for amaral to play every legal (and illegal) trick in the book but the mccanns have to play by the queensbury rules
Well I am agreeing absolutely with you that KM even though she is innocent did exactly the right thing taking her lawyers advice on 7 Sept 2007.

Re the opposing view - that it somehow implies guilt - has anyone with that view spent just half an hour reading anything from the available literature on the subject?
« Last Edit: June 25, 2014, 08:52:19 PM by pegasus »

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #371 on: June 25, 2014, 08:59:20 PM »
I'm not surprised with all the contradictions coming out in the 6 Sept interview. We decided to not take the kids out before Gerry left for tennis. Gerry then sent DP around to take the kids out to the play area. Kate saying came in front door, Gerry said patio. She was best keeping her trap shut.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #372 on: June 25, 2014, 09:37:21 PM »
It is interesting to read other peoples assumptions that they 'know' why people are suspect about the McCanns.

I have never questioned Kate's right to not answer the questions. I do believe in justice, and that forms a good part of it.
 I see no reason to criticize the police for asking questions- in order to establish what happened to her daughter.

My issue is this: why did she answer "YES" to the last question, knowing that it may affect the search for her daughter, and then create a circus about a book accusing  the author of the self same thing?

Not only is this double standards, it is a bit rich for people to support Kate's civil liberties, but deny other peoples right to freedom of speech and expression.

NB: The book was unbanned !  The search was not harmed due to it's contents, because there were still sightings. The McCanns have no legal authority on a Global playing field, Mr Amarals book can be, read online, or purchased from many book shops.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline pegasus

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #373 on: June 26, 2014, 01:19:10 AM »
I assume that if two individuals are granted the protection of arguido status, it would be sensible to have seperate lawyers.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Kate's refusal on legal advice to answer those 48 questions.
« Reply #374 on: June 26, 2014, 03:14:55 AM »
there was no misunderstanding...apart from the portuguese ragtops

Sorry, you will have to explain what you mean by ragtop, I assume you don't mean roof for a convertible car?
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