Mark Warner Holidays and Ocean Club Resorts had a duty of care towards their guests.

[John]

The holiday Company who placed the tapas group in block 5 of the Ocean Club Gardens complex was Mark Warner Holidays.  They had a duty of care towards their guests which by all counts they failed to deliver in respect of Madeleine McCann.

Information gleamed since Madeline's disappearance confirms that there were was a history of burglaries and attempted break-ins at the complex which Mark Warner management were aware of yet apparently saw fit to inform their guests or provide appropriate security after dark.

[VIXTE]

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I think it is not locals that spread the [ censored word ] and unrest against the police work. It is those who make money out of tourists and these are mainly ex pats..

I cannot believe how heartless these people are. Same as Mark Warner who never warned their guests the area was stricken by criminals and to be careful. If they did I believe this would have never happened to Madeleine.

[Benice]

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I think it is not locals that spread the [ censored word ] and unrest against the police work. It is those who make money out of tourists and these are mainly ex pats..

I cannot believe how heartless these people are. Same as Mark Warner who never warned their guests the area was stricken by criminals and to be careful. If they did I believe this would have never happened to Madeleine.

I quite agree.  Mark Warner have a lot to answer for.  IMO the reason they did so much to help the McCanns after Madeleine was abducted was because they knew they had failed them with their decision not to mention the regular burglaries or the fact that they knew families were being targetted by a sex offender.

If -  having made that decision to keep this information quiet -  they had then increased their security and installed  CCTV cameras, then one might be able to excuse them to some degree.     But they did nothing.        Shameful.

[VIXTE]

The whole population of one nation having the same opinion would in the society be classified as fascism.

In democratic societies people respect their differences.

There is a certain number of conspiracy theorists who instead of taking care of their own life tend to escape into fantasies and conspiracies and who spend their days making up these non realistic theories.

Modern policing has to follow certain procedures, such as the digging that we have seen in PDL, this is what in a normal procedure we would have seen in 2007..instead we listened story after story.. all made up by speculators!

[Martina]

If the McCanns did not decide to leave their children unattended, Maddie would not be missing right now. But yeah, blame the Portuguese people.

[VIXTE]

If the McCanns did not decide to leave their children unattended, Maddie would not be missing right now. But yeah, blame the Portuguese people.

McCanns left Madeleine because they were copying the 'listening service' which Mark Warner advertised in their booklet and was performing as a service on regular basis in many of their resorts.

1000s of parents left their children sleeping alone in their rooms in Mark Warner resorts all over the world and Mark Warner staff would go round ( same as the Tapas group did) and would 'listen' to these left alone children.

When McCanns arrived in Portugal they were told Ocean Club has no listening service but they weren't told there were many burglaries in the surrounding apartments.

If they were told to be careful and that the apartments are being broken into the McCanns would never leave their children alone.. they simply thought this was safe thing to to.. as it was being done in other Mark Warner resorts.

[Martina]

McCanns left Madeleine because they were copying the 'listening service' which Mark Warner advertised in their booklet and was performing as a service on regular basis in many of their resorts.

The point is they did not need to, as there was a night creche and the nanny services, available till 11 p.m. free of charge. It was their own selfish decision that created a window of opportunity for a abductor (if there was one).

[misty]

The point is they did not need to, as there was a night creche and the nanny services, available till 11 p.m. free of charge. It was their own selfish decision that created a window of opportunity for a abductor (if there was one).

There were many windows of opportunity during the preceding nights to take not just Madeleine but any of the other children. Or is the theory "well, no-one has taken the opportunity to kidnap her yet so we'll have to kill her tonight?" the next to be mooted?

[pegasus]

McCanns left Madeleine because they were copying the 'listening service' which Mark Warner advertised in their booklet and was performing as a service on regular basis in many of their resorts.

1000s of parents left their children sleeping alone in their rooms in Mark Warner resorts all over the world and Mark Warner staff would go round ( same as the Tapas group did) and would 'listen' to these left alone children.

At the MW resort in Greece (where a few of the group had been before) the staff on child-listening duty would certainly be sacked if they were caught drinking on duty. And that is not a trivial regulation. It's because alcohol impairs cognition and decision making.

[Benice]

If the McCanns did not decide to leave their children unattended, Maddie would not be missing right now. But yeah, blame the Portuguese people.

No-one is blaming the Portuguese people - but I do wonder how many of them were influenced by the vile smear campaign conducted via the media against the McCanns and their friends.   The same terrible injustice was perpetrated against Leonor Cipriano, in fact so successfully that the equivalent of a lynch mob attended her trial.

The McCanns did no different to millions of other families when on holiday and some are still doing the same today - i.e. leaving their children fast asleep knowing that someone would be checking on them at regular intervals.

You are right in saying that if the McCanns had not mirrored this form of babyminding - Madeleine might not be missing - however that does not give anyone the right to go into their apartment and abduct her.  The only criminal here is the monster who took her.  It seems to me that some people are almost implying that no blame should be attached to him/them  - because of the McCanns babyminding arrangements

[VIXTE]

The point is they did not need to, as there was a night creche and the nanny services, available till 11 p.m. free of charge. It was their own selfish decision that created a window of opportunity for a abductor (if there was one).

But you do agree that if they ( and other tourists ) were told about burglaries and child attacks they would think twice before imagining PDL was as safe as they thought?

[Martina]

But you do agree that if they ( and other tourists ) were told about burglaries and child attacks they would think twice before imagining PDL was as safe as they thought?

Leaving the children unattended is never safe, no matter the rate of criminality. The McCanns as the doctors should be very much aware of it, as such children very often end up in the hospital.

[pegasus]

The Greek resort listening service had checks every 15 minutes.

[VIXTE]

Leaving the children unattended is never safe, no matter the rate of criminality. The McCanns as the doctors should be very much aware of it, as such children very often end up in the hospital.

I agree.
But they did not have the clear picture. Their vision of Mark Warner resort wasn't realistic. They believed they were in a safe and laid back old fashioned village when they in fact were in an building which in the past 2 months prior to their arrival had several break ins which were never reported to the tourists. Tourist were not informed of break ins and nor about attacks on many girls.
In pubs, bars, airports, many places in the UK if the spot is known for crime you get written warnings.. they are everywhere.
Why not in PDL?

[Eleanor]

If the McCanns did not decide to leave their children unattended, Maddie would not be missing right now. But yeah, blame the Portuguese people.

Can you explain how children were being assaulted in their beds while their parents were asleep?  Kate and Gerry actually  being  in the apartment does not mean that it wouldn't have happened.