Author Topic: Método 3, Marcos Aragão Correia and the campaign to discredit Gonçalo Amaral.  (Read 156969 times)

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stephen25000

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There is absolutely no cite for him admitting this
A lawyer would not admit to a criminal offence
So no cite again

Oh dear. &%&£(+

Offline ShiningInLuz

As I said Benice, he admitted it.

I don't know how the Portuguese system works, but it would surely in the equivalent of the CPS,if there is one.

Perhaps S.I.L. can enlighten us on this, or Montclair.
My knowledge of the Portuguese legal system probably ranks about 1 out of 10.  Sorry.
What's up, old man?

stephen25000

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My knowledge of the Portuguese legal system probably ranks about 1 out of 10.  Sorry.

Thanks for the reply S.I.L.

Much appreciated.

stephen25000

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Isn't it time dave you stopped typing the denials, when anyone with access to the internet, can find it for themselves.

The cites are already on this thread.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2017, 12:19:04 PM by Angelo222 »

Offline Benice

As I said Benice, he admitted it.

I don't know how the Portuguese system works, but it would surely in the equivalent of the CPS,if there is one.

Perhaps S.I.L. can enlighten us on this, or Montclair.

It seems highly unlikely to me that anyone - let alone a lawyer -  would admit to deliberately breaking the law - thus risking a visit from the police armed with his 'confession' plus statements from 4 witnesses  - and insodoing actually inviting a subsequent prosecution/prison sentence.

On the other hand it seems very likely that as no arrest or prosecution by the PJ took place - it must be because there was no credible evidence in existence to warrant such action.     Unless there is evidence that the PJ were simply incompetent then there cannot possibly be any other reason.  IMO.

It's just plain common sense.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Mr Gray

Isn't it time dave you stopped typing the denials, when anyone with access to the internet, can find it for themselves.

The cites are already on this thread.
You have claimed he admitted it in relation to offering a deal to amaral gellow officers
You claim the cite is on the thread
If you can produce it I will apologise
« Last Edit: January 05, 2017, 12:19:43 PM by Angelo222 »

stephen25000

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It seems highly unlikely to me that anyone - let alone a lawyer -  would admit to deliberately breaking the law - thus risking a visit from the police armed with his 'confession' plus statements from 4 witnesses  - and insodoing actually inviting a subsequent prosecution/prison sentence.

On the other hand it seems very likely that as no arrest or prosecution by the PJ took place - it must be because there was no credible evidence in existence to warrant such action.     Unless there is evidence that the PJ were simply incompetent then there cannot possibly be any other reason.  IMO.

It's just plain common sense.

He did Benice.

It is a matter of record.

Denying  it , is rather foolish.

Offline misty

If there was any evidence of wrongdoing in relation to Correia & the defendants, Cabrita would have included it in the complaint he made.

http://www.destak.pt/artigo/47639
 CASE OF JOAN
Order of the Lawyers files a complaint for alleged illegalities of Aragão Correia
08 | 12 | 2009 20.00H
Gonçalo Amaral, a former inspector of the Judicial Police (PJ), alleged in the complaint submitted to the Ethics Board by the lawyer Antonio Cabrita that Marcos Aragão Correia had several procedures considered illegal in the defense of Joana's mother, a child who disappeared in 2004, in the village of Figueira , Portimão.

Among other acts, the former coordinator of the Department of Criminal Investigation of PJ de Portimão accused Aragão Correia of having spoken with Leonor Cipriano in prison without authorization of the then lawyer of the mother of Joana, João Grade dos Santos, before the trial of five current and Former PJ inspectors.

According to a document to which the Lusa news agency had access today, the Deontology Council announced Monday that it considered that there was no illegitimacy on the part of Aragão Correia, who defended Leonor Cipriano at the hearings at the Faro Court, in which two former PJ were sentenced to suspended sentences for the crimes of falsification of testimony and falsification of document and three others were acquitted of the practice of crime of torture.

Council of Deontology of the Madeira District Council of the Bar Association, which also dismissed two other complaints in different disciplinary proceedings at the meeting on 12 November, also understood that Aragão Correia was not responsible for having made public the report of the Association Against (ACED), according to the same document.
As an ACED jurist, Aragão Correia drafted the document during his visit to Leonor Cipriano, serving a sentence of 16 years and six months for the crimes of murder and concealment of a corpse in the Odemira Prison, and several excerpts, some with judgments Of value on the reported facts, were made public.

The "Joana affair" has been in the courts since 2005. After the conviction confirmed by the Supreme Court of Justice (STJ) of Leonor Cipriano and her brother, João Cipriano, to serve the same sentence in the Prison of Sintra, Of five current and former PJ inspectors, with a sentence read on May 22 of this year.

In addition to appeals to the Evora Court of Appeal, Aragão Correia requested the STJ to review the sentence imposed on Leonor Cipriano, which is heard on Wednesday at the Court of Appeal of Évora.

On the sidelines, Leandro Silva, companion of Leonor Cipriano, accused Gonçalo Amaral of alleged co-authorship of the crime of torture. The Public Ministry was an assistant and the former inspector requested the opening of the investigation.

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stephen25000

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REPLY 101 ON THIS THREAD

Sources,  reply 105.

' Dealing with suspicions that in agreeing to defend Leonor Cipriano, he was being paid by someone who is very interested in ensuring that Gonçalo Amaral is convicted of a crime, or at least that his reputation is damaged - because of his public comments about Madeleine probably having died in Apartment 5A in Praia da Luz – he retorted to the court: “I don't get paid in pounds or in euros. I am here for principles, and my objective is to set free Leonor Cipriano”.

During the court session held on Monday 3 November, it emerged that Marcos Aragão Correia had made efforts to do a deal with the four detectives under Amaral’s command. The lawyer defending the four detectives said he had received an approach from Aragão Correia, proposing a very dirty deal.

Aragão Correia, he said, had asked him to consider a deal whereby, in exchange for the four detectives all agreeing to testify against Goncalo Amaral, and state that it was Amaral who gave the order to torture Leonor Cipriano, he would ensure that the charges against the four detectives were re-drawn so that their sentences would be greatly reduced. Hey would not get a custodial sentence, he promised. '



Now, about your promise. 8)-)))
« Last Edit: January 05, 2017, 12:09:56 PM by Angelo222 »

Offline Mr Gray


REPLY 101 ON THIS THREAD

Sources,  reply 105.

' Dealing with suspicions that in agreeing to defend Leonor Cipriano, he was being paid by someone who is very interested in ensuring that Gonçalo Amaral is convicted of a crime, or at least that his reputation is damaged - because of his public comments about Madeleine probably having died in Apartment 5A in Praia da Luz – he retorted to the court: “I don't get paid in pounds or in euros. I am here for principles, and my objective is to set free Leonor Cipriano”.

During the court session held on Monday 3 November, it emerged that Marcos Aragão Correia had made efforts to do a deal with the four detectives under Amaral’s command. The lawyer defending the four detectives said he had received an approach from Aragão Correia, proposing a very dirty deal.

Aragão Correia, he said, had asked him to consider a deal whereby, in exchange for the four detectives all agreeing to testify against Goncalo Amaral, and state that it was Amaral who gave the order to torture Leonor Cipriano, he would ensure that the charges against the four detectives were re-drawn so that their sentences would be greatly reduced. Hey would not get a custodial sentence, he promised. '



Now, about your promise. 8)-)))
Where in that statement does correia admit to trying to influence witnesses
Your cite is there
There is absolutely no admission
None whatsoever
As I correctly predicted
« Last Edit: January 05, 2017, 11:42:51 AM by davel »

Offline Angelo222

We have seen more evidence of a campaign to discredit correia

Correia did that all on his own with his lies and the fact he was thrown out of court by a magistrate and reported to the Portuguese law society for malpractice.  How that idiot isn't disbarred by now is anyone's guess.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Mr Gray

Correia did that all on his own with his lies and the fact he was thrown out of court by a magistrate and reported to the Portuguese law society for malpractice.  How that idiot isn't disbarred by now is anyone's guess.
What lies did he tell
Cite

stephen25000

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The page you have linked does not contain any admission by correia
That unfortunately for you is a fact
It is there for all to see
No admission

The report comes from the Court Files.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2017, 12:23:31 PM by Angelo222 »

Offline Mr Gray


The report comes from the Court Files.

There is no admission by correia
You were 100% wrong
« Last Edit: January 05, 2017, 12:24:00 PM by Angelo222 »

Offline Angelo222

Cite
Your claims are becoming more and more bizarre
There is no record anywhere of him admitting this

Do you ever do research before you post nonsense?  Correia admitted approaching the defendants and offering them deals if they would point the finger at Amaral.
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!