Método 3, Marcos Aragão Correia and the campaign to discredit Gonçalo Amaral.

[Admin]

I have already warned of the consequences of disrupting this thread. Members who continue to disrupt will be further sanctioned.

[Benice]

Oh let's see, he first claimed seeing Maddie at a dam in a dream then changed his story claiming he was told to search the Arade Dam by an informer.  The man is a fantasist pure and simple.

You really need to stop disrupting this thread davel, warning issued.

And yet Kates's dream was deemed to have changed the whole course of the case?   No mention of 'fantasing' by anyone in her case - in fact it was regarded as massively important evidence against her.

So on the one hand a dream proves the dreamer is a fantasist  - and on the other hand a dream confirms the dreamer is not a fantasist but is probably guilty of a heinous crime.

What sort of logic is that?

[Mr Gray]

So asking for cites is disruption but posting opinion as fact and refusing to provide cites is not disruption
The whole of this thread is based on cut and pastes from extremely pro amaral sites
That puts the criticism of correia into context and it seems to me there is a campaign from the amaral sites to discredit him

We have the transcript from outside court and nowhere does the phrase
The target was hit feature

[Admin]

So asking for cites is disruption but posting opinion as fact and refusing to provide cites is not disruption
The whole of this thread is based on cut and pastes from extremely pro amaral sites
That puts the criticism of correia into context and it seems to me there is a campaign from the amaral sites to discredit him

We have the transcript from outside court and nowhere does the phrase
The target was hit feature

Are you calling Leonor Cipriano's former lawyer John Grade and the inspector's lawyers liars by any chance?  If not, their evidence alone is extremely harmful to Sr Correia.  Attempting to pervert the course of justice is a serious matter in any jurisdiction.

[Mr Gray]

Are you calling Leonor Cipriano's former lawyer John Grade and the inspector's lawyers liars by any chance?  If not, their evidence alone is extremely harmful to Sr Correia.  Attempting to pervert the course of justice is a serious matter in any jurisdiction.

Do you have actual quotes from these lawyers
That would be a good place to start

[Mr Gray]

Do you ever do research before you post nonsense?  Correia admitted approaching the defendants and offering them deals if they would point the finger at Amaral.

Admitted where
I don't accept unsubstantiated claims
If you are claiming this as fact then you will have a cite
Perhaps you could also explain in what capacity and on whose authority he made this offer
Surely he had no role in the prosecution of the officers and was in no position to offer any deal

[jassi]

A 'deal' could have been a cash payment for services rendered.

[Mr Gray]

A 'deal' could have been a cash payment for services rendered.

If you read the claim it's the promise of a reduced sentence which as everyone knows he was in no position on to make
Makes the claim look false

[jassi]

OK, but you don't accept that there was a deal anyway, so if there was, it could have been for anything.

[Mr Gray]

OK, but you don't accept that there was a deal anyway, so if there was, it could have been for anything.

The claim is for a reduced sentence if you read the link

[jassi]

The claim is for a reduced sentence if you read the link

As I understand it, you don't accept that link.

[Mr Gray]

As I understand it, you don't accept that link.

If you read the thread you will see what I do and do not accept
As it is im waiting for a cite  from admin and Angelo

[Mr Gray]

So could someone explain how correia was able to offer a reduced sentence deal
What influence did he have

[Angelo222]

So could someone explain how correia was able to offer a reduced sentence deal
What influence did he have

You really take the biscuit davel.  Its called cooperating with the prosecution.  Correia has given a long interview on the subject which I'm sure you can find but just in case you can't the crux of it was that he made the suggestion to the defence lawyers that if their clients were to state that they were ordered to torture Cipriano by Amaral then the court would look upon them favourably.

[Mr Gray]

You really take the biscuit davel.  Its called cooperating with the prosecution.  Correia has given a long interview on the subject which I'm sure you can find but just in case you can't the crux of it was that he made the suggestion to the defence lawyers that if their clients were to state that they were ordered to torture Cipriano by Amaral then the court would look upon them favourably.

So you are now saying he did not offer a deal but suggested they make a deal with the prosecution
That's quite quite different and not as it has been portrayed my persistence has payed off
And you still haven't provided a first hand account

So correia never offered any sort of deal
Thank you so much