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Offline Mr Moderator

In his book Madeleine - The Truth of the Lie, Goncalo Amaral writes of the difficulties and trials the Portuguese police faced when they attempted to collect forensic evidence.  In particular, he writes...

Lots of people were already in place; however, nobody appeared in the photos. We don't know, for example, how they were dressed. Such observations can turn out to be important later on. The report mentions that the twins were asleep in their bed, but there is no proof to confirm it; on the contrary, in the photographs, you can see empty cots, where only the mattresses remain - the sheets and blankets having been removed. Why have their beds been stripped? If the sheets had not been removed, traces of their presence could have been found there.

The search and examination of the scene were carried out in difficult conditions: when they arrived, the police were met with a large number of people coming and going - family, friends, resort employees, including dogs and members of the National Guard. The contamination of the premises risks bringing serious prejudice, as a consequence, to the investigation. We must ask ourselves if that contamination has been deliberate or not - it can make the search for clues particularly complicated.

Inside the apartment, police forensic specialists proceed to lift finger and palmar prints, a job that is preferably carried out during daylight hours. Others look for traces of blood, samples of fibres and hair. We notice with dismay that one of the technicians, who is working on the outside of the McCann children's bedroom window is not using the regulation suit, thus risking contaminating possible clues. These images of negligence start to circulate world-wide; this isn't, however, the usual behaviour of police judiciaire technicians. It's obvious that no one has broken in and the lock has not been forced. No prints are lifted that are likely to belong to an unknown person, nor the slightest trace of gloves which could have been worn by a hypothetical abductor. In the middle of this desert of clues, two prints are perfectly easily found: the very distinct mark of a palm print on the balcony window at the rear of the apartment, and a clearly visible one of fingers on the window pane of Madeleine's bedroom. The excellent quality of the palm print seemed suspicious to us. Later, analyses confirm our suspicions: it belonged to one of the officers who were present the previous night.


Could more have been done to preserve a potential crime scene?
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stephen25000

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Re: Could more have been done to preserve a potential crime scene?
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2014, 08:02:47 PM »

It matters little what leads they may be following, their progress is slow.


Slow, going nowhere.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Could more have been done to preserve a potential crime scene?
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2014, 08:06:38 PM »

Slow, going nowhere.

SY have not said what progress they have made..no body including you knows...the quote saying they are back to square one was from an un named  Portuguese source so is not to be trusted
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Offline jassi

Re: Could more have been done to preserve a potential crime scene?
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2014, 08:50:41 PM »
if you have been following the case you will know that things are slow due to the rogatories..initially SY were refused permission to interview the witnesses recently interviewed and had to go through a lengthy procedure to gain permission

And where has it git them ?  Back to square one apparently.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Could more have been done to preserve a potential crime scene?
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2014, 08:51:52 PM »
And where has it git them ?  Back to square one apparently.
"Back to square one" according to whom exactly?

Offline jassi

Re: Could more have been done to preserve a potential crime scene?
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2014, 09:45:15 PM »
"Back to square one" according to whom exactly?

Mediar reports, which is all that most have us have to go on.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Alfred R Jones

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Re: Could more have been done to preserve a potential crime scene?
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2014, 10:16:39 PM »
Mediar reports, which is all that most have us have to go on.
I think the quote came from "sources close to the PJ" if I recall correctly, so not SY then.  Who apart from them is to know which number square they are on?

Offline jassi

Re: Could more have been done to preserve a potential crime scene?
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2014, 08:03:21 AM »
I think the quote came from "sources close to the PJ" if I recall correctly, so not SY then.  Who apart from them is to know which number square they are on?


Which, of course, is why I used the word 'apparently'
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future


Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Could more have been done to preserve a potential crime scene?
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2014, 09:32:13 AM »
So

Just a guess?

Nothing more. 

Not good enough.

No that's right, SY have a plethora of evidence against a beggar & a bus driver.

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stephen25000

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Re: Could more have been done to preserve a potential crime scene?
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2014, 09:45:54 AM »
No that's right, SY have a plethora of evidence against a beggar & a bus driver.

i.e. NOTHING at all.

Offline sadie

Re: Could more have been done to preserve a potential crime scene?
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2014, 09:46:07 AM »
No that's right, SY have a plethora of evidence against a beggar & a bus driver.
They are not going to tell YOU or any of us exactly what evidence they have.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Could more have been done to preserve a potential crime scene?
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2014, 09:46:50 AM »
They are not going to tell YOU or any of us exactly what evidence they have.

They ain't got none.
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stephen25000

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Re: Could more have been done to preserve a potential crime scene?
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2014, 09:48:20 AM »
They ain't got none.

Precisely.

if they had anything which would stand up, action would have been taken.

Offline Brietta

Re: Could more have been done to preserve a potential crime scene?
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2014, 10:05:29 AM »
Precisely.

if they had anything which would stand up, action would have been taken.

Precisely.

I think the penny may be getting ready to drop.

... "if they had anything which would stand up, action would have been taken."  That is why the police have declared that they have no interest in Madeleine's parents.  That is why the police are looking for an abductor.

Couldn't be clearer.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....