Jeremy Bamber - What it means to be in Prison today

[ActualMat]

Mat how do you know Jeremy has nothing to do with Mike?

Jeremy definitely keeps it confidential who he writes to, I don't really know where you got that information

Forgive me butting in Jackie, Mike said that Jeremy no longer had anything to do with him.  I seem to remember Mike being quite upset about it.

yeah, it is because of Mike I knew that he and Bamber no longer have contact. Bambers choice.

[John]

A reminder of some of the Press reports for new members...

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=97.msg5354#msg5354

[Myster]

Just for the record Jackie.., Julie wasn't nude in the News of the World article, and the photos weren't necessarily taken specially for it.

[jackiepreece]

Mat
Jeremy would have a go at Mike about all his theories but he could still write to mike privately if he agreed he isn't seen to have any contact at all.

I know he writes to people privately

Jeremy told me himself he would never cut Mike off

[ActualMat]

Mat
Jeremy would have a go at Mike about all his theories but he could still write to mike privately if he agreed he isn't seen to have any contact at all.

I know he writes to people privately

Jeremy told me himself he would never cut Mike off

Mike said on hos forum that Jeremy no longer wnats conversations with him or correspondence. Things may have changed since then however.

[John]

Mat
Jeremy would have a go at Mike about all his theories but he could still write to mike privately if he agreed he isn't seen to have any contact at all.

I know he writes to people privately

Jeremy told me himself he would never cut Mike off

Do you ever wonder why Jackie?

Could it be because Teskowski knows the TRUTH?   8-)(--)

[jackiepreece]

Maybe John I don't think we will ever know though

[John]

I can see no reason to treat inmates in medieval style. They can have all the benefits in the world, I don´t care as long as dangerous individuals are kept away from the rest of the population. Besides, being locked up can´t be that pleasant, can it - no matter the circumstances?
I am not talking about Jeremy Bamber in particular, just generally speaking.

They say you can get used to anything except hanging abs.  Prison is no different and I am quite sure that Jeremy Bamber is institutionalised by this stage.

[John]

Hi Tim,  what, if anything can you tell me about Tesko's past misdemeanors?

A burglar.

[John]

I was watching Lifers the other night, I think some of the prisoners like being in prison, they have all they need and one of them said he had no reason to live in the community, he gets fed, he's got his own room, tv etc and I've heard it a few times.

Believe it or not I have met lots of guys who went out and committed a crime just to get back to their mates in prison!  It's so sad!

[John]

Just for the record Jackie.., Julie wasn't nude in the News of the World article, and the photos weren't necessarily taken specially for it.

From my understanding there are two sets of photographs.

Sheila had some tasteful nudes done to promote her career.  The semi nudes used by the NOTW were other older pictures she had taken.

[Joanne]

I can believe it John.
I worked in a chemist in a rough part of Sheffield, it did needle exchange and sometimes, the regulars would congregate to see who was up for what, who was in which prison and which prison was the worst. I'm sure I read a piece about a bloke who broke back into a prison because he said it was horrible on the outside!

[sika]

Tim that is where my problems lies with Mugford

'Tonights the night'
'I should have been an actor'

I find it unbielevable that she could have gone to the mortuary and looked at the little boys with bullet holes in them

There would have been someone else could have done
Then the news of the world article, sell your story if you think you have to, but do not pose like that

Imagine Colins feelings he had just had a lengthy time in court, No celebration for Colin, and if Jeremy really was guilty she could have had him arrested earlier

From the day of Jeremys conviction Mugford was set up for life

How could she have posed like that Colin must have cried his eyes out when he saw that

I do agree the NOTW article was in appalling taste and I am sure the £25K deal was made before the trial although



probably never put on paper. I also believe Julie told the truth and remember she had told one of her friends about it days before she split up with Bamber ... it wasn't the case of a woman scorned.

Julie's evidence isn't enough to convict Bamber on it's own but when it's added to the mountain of other circumstantial evidence it ties the whole picture together.



And no one should mistake the words circumstantial evidence for weak evidence. Cirrcumstantial evidence can be equally as compelling as direct evidence as it is in the Bamber case.

  Very well said 

[John]

I can believe it John.
I worked in a chemist in a rough part of Sheffield, it did needle exchange and sometimes, the regulars would congregate to see who was up for what, who was in which prison and which prison was the worst. I'm sure I read a piece about a bloke who broke back into a prison because he said it was horrible on the outside!

That's exactly it.  Many people cannot cope on the outside and find the whole prison regime helpful to them for all sorts of reasons.  I watched guys go out perfectly healthy and then watched them come back in weeks later in a complete mess.

The only prisoners who have a hard time are those on protection, they are usually abused by other prisoners and even their own depending on what they are in for.  There are also prisoners who are too dangerous to be on a wing so they are in solitary confinement.  That I would imagine is horrendous.

One thing I found shocking in prison was the lack of literacy among the young prisoners. In many cases they couldn't even read their own charge sheet or court documents.

[Myster]

Just for the record Jackie.., Julie wasn't nude in the News of the World article, and the photos weren't necessarily taken specially for it.

From my understanding there are two sets of photographs.

Sheila had some tasteful nudes done to promote her career.  The semi nudes used by the NOTW were other older pictures she had taken.

I think Jackie's post #23 is referring to the picture below of Julie Mugford, not to those of Sheila Caffell, which were salted away by Jeremy Bamber.