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Offline faithlilly

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #165 on: December 11, 2014, 10:39:34 AM »
... and we place our faith in the timings of a child "not absolutely certain of the day" she left Portugal after her holiday.

And that is our starter for 10 !
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline pathfinder73

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #166 on: December 11, 2014, 10:45:22 AM »
... and we place our faith in the timings of a child "not absolutely certain of the day" she left Portugal after her holiday.

So what? She remembered that 10pm time and was correct on leaving Dolphin restaurant at 9:30. Receipt was 9:27. Martin and Peter thought they left at 9pm so the little 12 year old was spot on!
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Brietta

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #167 on: December 11, 2014, 10:57:10 AM »
So what? She remembered that 10pm time and was correct on leaving Dolphin restaurant at 9:30. Receipt was 9:27. Martin and Peter thought they left at 9pm so the little 12 year old was spot on!

 ... so it appears she just has some difficulty remembering what day it is ... oh well then.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline pathfinder73

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #168 on: December 11, 2014, 10:58:29 AM »
... so it appears she just has some difficulty remembering what day it is ... oh well then.

Nobody's perfect. You think everyone can remember everything. Get in the real world.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline faithlilly

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #169 on: December 11, 2014, 11:02:42 AM »
... so it appears she just has some difficulty remembering what day it is ... oh well then.

Or indeed what door you entered the apartment just the day before.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline jassi

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #170 on: December 11, 2014, 11:04:59 AM »
Or when the kids played tennis
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline faithlilly

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #171 on: December 11, 2014, 11:20:10 AM »
Or when the kids played tennis

Indeed jassi.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

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Offline Anna

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #173 on: December 11, 2014, 01:07:54 PM »
We appear to be going Off topic. Please try to adhere to thread Topic. I know it can be difficult.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline pegasus

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #174 on: December 11, 2014, 01:28:07 PM »
If he had walked past this building chances are staff or others going out or in might have seen him.
IMO man was innocent dad who parked few metres north of sighting (I can show you the parking area) and then carrying daughter home slightly south of sighting with parking short.

Offline Anna

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #175 on: December 11, 2014, 01:52:16 PM »
If he had walked past this building chances are staff or others going out or in might have seen him.
IMO man was innocent dad who parked few metres north of sighting (I can show you the parking area) and then carrying daughter home slightly south of sighting with parking short.

 I don't believe that anyone (IIRC) living at PBB, sighted the man though.
 I do however agree that there is a fair possibility, that it was an innocent Dad that was sighted by the Smith Family.
 Something nobody knows yet, as the person in question, has not yet been allocated.
 We will have to wait and see what has been found, when the investigation is over.
“You should not honour men more than truth.”
― Plato

Offline pathfinder73

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #176 on: December 11, 2014, 01:54:25 PM »
If he had walked past this building chances are staff or others going out or in might have seen him.
IMO man was innocent dad who parked few metres north of sighting (I can show you the parking area) and then carrying daughter home slightly south of sighting with parking short.


That man was in a hurry to get home wasn't he? Maybe you haven't seen the lookalike efit that was hidden carrying a Maddy lookalike. Even when the truth is staring you in the face you can't see it. Is it too simple for your overcomplicated theories Peggy? The dogs and the Smiths tut tut. The Smiths - what about the long sleeved top? Don't worry I will get rid of it.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #177 on: December 11, 2014, 02:00:14 PM »
That man was in a hurry to get home wasn't he? Maybe you haven't seen the lookalike efit that was hidden carrying a Maddy lookalike. Even when the truth is staring you in the face you can't see it. Is it too simple for your overcomplicated theories Peggy? The dogs and the Smiths tut tut. The Smiths - what about the long sleeved top? Don't worry I will get rid of it.

'That man was in a hurry to get home wasn't he?'

LOL

Ignorant b....r n'all weren't he.
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Offline pegasus

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #178 on: December 11, 2014, 05:27:28 PM »
A brief look at other cases reveals that basing a whole investigation on one supposed sighting is foolish. One case recently was seriously delayed because police based searches and investigation on a reported sighting supposedly of missing person. It wasn't, it wasted days, and solution was in opposite direction. In the PDL investigation it's many years spent obsessed exclusively with two sightings, both with low probability of being the missing person and probably irrelevant IMO.

Offline Brietta

Re: The Pedras Brancas building and Smithman's route.
« Reply #179 on: December 12, 2014, 04:56:36 PM »
A brief look at other cases reveals that basing a whole investigation on one supposed sighting is foolish. One case recently was seriously delayed because police based searches and investigation on a reported sighting supposedly of missing person. It wasn't, it wasted days, and solution was in opposite direction. In the PDL investigation it's many years spent obsessed exclusively with two sightings, both with low probability of being the missing person and probably irrelevant IMO.

Usually people make reports in good faith.

Imagine how you would feel if you witnessed something which you dismissed and failed to report;  I have listened to people who will be traumatised for life because they failed to intervene or report their concerns when James Bulger was being led to his death.

On the other hand ... confusion and taking the eye of investigators off the ball ... might have been the name of the game.

It is possible decoy sightings could even have been used to deflect attention from the abductor's real route.

The PJ apparently took Jane Tanner's sighting very seriously and devoted a lot of time to working out a proposed route or destination: perhaps they were getting too close to finding that for the peace of mind of some people.

I hadn't heard of this one ... but it certainly would take resources away from the direction taken by the man seen by Jane Tanner ... and infer an alibi for a suspect.


'I SAW THE KIDNAPPER TAKE HER'

Saturday July 21,2007
David Pilditch in Praia da Luz

***snip

POLICE have uncovered details of the escape route taken by missing Madeleine McCann’s abductor, it was revealed yesterday.

The sensational new development came at the end of a week of intense activity in which police sources said the 78-day-old investigation had reached “a critical stage”.

A new witness has reported seeing a man rushing past the tiny Nossa Senhora church in Praia da Luz towards the seafront at around 9.30pm on May 3, just after Madeleine was snatched from her bed at the Ocean Club resort.

The sighting – which police sources say is “significant” – backs the testimony of a friend of Madeleine’s parents, Jane Tanner, 36.

She had previously told Portuguese police that she saw a man rushing away from the complex carrying a small child wrapped in a blanket at around 9.30pm.

***snip

A police source said yesterday: “This information is being taken seriously and is potentially very significant.

“The man was seen rushing from the direction of the complex where the family were staying. He was heading down the hill towards the beach.”

The route the man took goes past a supermarket 100 yards from the McCanns’ apartment and on towards the church and beach.

It’s believed the new witness, thought to be a Portuguese local, is one of a number of people who were interviewed by detectives last week.
http://themaddiecasefiles.com/post3146.html#p3146
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....