What evidence would one expect to find in an ABDUCTION?

[pathfinder73]

You mean you think the police should have forced them by law to take part in a reconstruction whose sole purpose was to provide evidence against them?  Wow, fascist or what!

So you think it was right for them to be above the law? Are there any other cases where witnesses have refused to take part in a police reconstruction?

"Kate continued that when she entered the apartment via the patio doors, a breeze hit her in the face as if a door or window was open. When she entered the children's room, the window was open, the blind had been forced and Madeleine had disappeared." (Michelle Thompson)

[Alfred R Jones]

So you think it was right for them to be above the law? Are there any other cases where witnesses have refused to take part in a police reconstruction?

"Kate continued that when she entered the apartment via the patio doors, a breeze hit her in the face as if a door or window was open. When she entered the children's room, the window was open, the blind had been forced and Madeleine had disappeared." (Michelle Thompson)

Er, how were they above the law then?  Explain.

[Mr Gray]

Knowing something and proving it are two different things. 

By the way, what makes you think that SY believe the most probable explanation for Madeleine's disappearance is stranger abduction when they have spent a week digging up PdL looking for her grave?

Looks like nobody can provide any evidence solely related to abduction?

knowing something without being able to prove it is called an opinion..

Abducted and murdered is the most probable option by a million miles... I know its true but I can't prove it, so that should be quite acceptable

[pathfinder73]

Er, how were they above the law then?  Explain.

Did you find any other examples of witnesses not doing a police reconstruction?

10 August

SF: You feel you are being treated as a suspect, Kate?

KM: I haven't been made to feel like that, no, but it's not that... you know, it's not... we know that everybody has to be looked at; I mean, that's part of any investigation and, you know, if... if... if it means that, you know... we've... we've... all along we've cooperated and I think, you know, the police have to do their job properly.

[sadie]

Knowing something and proving it are two different things. 

By the way, what makes you think that SY believe the most probable explanation for Madeleine's disappearance is stranger abduction when they have spent a week digging up PdL looking for her grave?

Looks like nobody can provide any evidence solely related to abduction?

I have got a lot of pointers from after the abduction.  Things that would only have happened had there been an abduction, but I aint sharing them ... and until proven they cannot be considered evidence per se, I think

[lordpookles]

From what I've heard and been able to verify to some degree I don't think there is any evidence of abduction or staging by the parents. With the window it is a bone of contention and the dogs are just dogs. Dogs are stupid. They would poo all over the floor if they weren't told not to. Although I think they likely did detect cadaver scent there are also plausible explanations for why it was there too. You can't expect someone not to retain the right to innocence on that basis.

Both scenarios are possible imo. And the parents could very well have had their child abducted whilst having this monkey of suspicion on their back too. I am suspicious of the parents, but that is the same reason why they needed to be eliminated from the Portuguese inquiry. If indeed they have been eliminated from the SY inquiry it would definitely be wise imo for police after the inquiry is over to comment more on this given the discussion on the internet for the sake of the parents.

Does anyone think they would have been able to move forward with this investigation under these conditions if you were in charge??  The Portuguese did not seem able to for sure.

[Alfred R Jones]

Did you find any other examples of witnesses not doing a police reconstruction?

10 August

SF: You feel you are being treated as a suspect, Kate?

KM: I haven't been made to feel like that, no, but it's not that... you know, it's not... we know that everybody has to be looked at; I mean, that's part of any investigation and, you know, if... if... if it means that, you know... we've... we've... all along we've cooperated and I think, you know, the police have to do their job properly.

So how were they above the law then?

[slartibartfast]

I have got a lot of pointers from after the abduction.  Things that would only have happened had there been an abduction, but I aint sharing them ... and until proven they cannot be considered evidence per se, I think

If you don't share them, I don't think they can be considered at all...

[Carana]

From what I've heard and been able to verify to some degree I don't think there is any evidence of abduction or staging by the parents. With the window it is a bone of contention and the dogs are just dogs. Dogs are stupid. They would poo all over the floor if they weren't told not to. Although I think they likely did detect cadaver scent there are also plausible explanations for why it was there too. You can't expect someone not to retain the right to innocence on that basis.

Both scenarios are possible imo. And the parents could very well have had their child abducted whilst having this monkey of suspicion on their back too. I am suspicious of the parents, but that is the same reason why they needed to be eliminated from the Portuguese inquiry. If indeed they have been eliminated from the SY inquiry it would definitely be wise imo for police after the inquiry is over to comment more on this given the discussion on the internet for the sake of the parents.

Does anyone think they would have been able to move forward with this investigation under these conditions if you were in charge??  The Portuguese did not seem able to for sure.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean in that last sentence. Who is "they" and what "conditions"?

[lordpookles]

that didn't make sense. Out of context. Mean't if you were in charge of the Portuguese investigation and you had not yet eliminated the parents and you could not get their holiday friends to cooperate plus one of the chief suspects had not answered questions in your previous interrogation some of which were being asked for the first time.

[sadie]

If you don't share them, I don't think they can be considered at all...

Oh, I have shared them with the people who matter.

[slartibartfast]

Oh, I have shared them with the people who matter.

We will have to assume they are libellous then...

[sadie]

We will have to assume they are libellous then...

No, it is not libellous to share facts with the Police.

[stephen25000]

No, it is not libellous to share facts with the Police.

Facts ???

Or just opinions ?

[slartibartfast]

No, it is not libellous to share facts with the Police.

We know that, it is the reason you won't share it here.