Brenda Leyland found dead in a hotel room.

[Brietta]

I'm sure Martin Brunt is very upset.

I've often wondered how some people would react if Kate had been driven over the edge ...

I read the comments on an unregulated forum when the headlines reflected testimony in the libel trial that she had felt suicidal ... unfortunately ... I know exactly how some of these people would have reacted to such an event.

[stephen25000]

  ... once you provide a cite for your 'death threats' claim to Dr Amaral.

I've only been asking you for two days ... you seem somewhat reluctant.

Reluctant ?

You don't read, or you ignore what you have been already told.

The relevant information has now been passed to the Police.

Now you've made a claim that the two links from the B.B.C. were altered/faked..............

In which Hogan-Howe admits the dossier was given to them by the mccann family and he said, with a slip of the tongue 'murder' then 'missing child'.

Mmmm.

[stephen25000]

Stephen - a couple of pages ago you made mention of "gloating" by posters on this forum.  I have asked you very politely a few times to provide examples. 

I can only conclude that you are unable to do so.  So maybe withdraw the comment and apologise?
 
telling a poster to PROVE IT makes you look rather like a petulant and rather ill mannered child, and a bit rich given your failure to back up your comments.  But par for the course.

One last time.

First, apologize for what, the behaviour of other people ?

I don't think so.

The gloating took place by supporters on here and far worse elsewhere, e.g. twitter, when Brenda's identity was revealed.

It all changed when her death was announced, and that along with the dossier, resulted in several people closing their twitter accounts and certain websites supporting the mccanns mysteriously closing.

As to petulance jean, it's written all over your post, nothing new there though, simply par for the course. Most notable when adverse information comes to the surface, so the mccann supporter mantra of attacking the poster comes to the fore yet again.

Meanwhile brietta claims the B.B.C. links were altered. Now that's her statement. %£&)**# %£&)**# %£&)**#

[faithlilly]

David Aaronovitch made some very pertinent observations in a Times article ... unfortunately it appears that there remains a hard core who see only opportunity for further abuse in Ms Leyland's death ... and not a time for reflection and real concern for her family.

"I am pretty sure that if the Sky News crime reporter Martin Brunt had his time over again he would decide not to doorstep an unknown and unknowable minor social miscreant like Brenda. In a very soft and calm voice she told him that she thought she was entitled to make the comments she had, and then she went off and committed suicide.
Who knew? And Brunt will be very upset. But now, of course, the critics came for him. A Facebook page was set up arguing that he should be fired. And a little voice whispered inside my head: “And what if he kills himself?” Will we go after the anti-Brunt Facebookers?"

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/columnists/article4231112.ece

And there is also a hardcore, the media which Aaronovitch is a part of included, who only see further opportunity in her death to abuse Mrs Leyland.

I'm so glad that this rather ill-informed social commentator didn't take advantage of the platform his opinion piece has given him to further compound the pain and grief of the family of this 'minor social miscreant ' by further abusing her name !!!

[Alfred R Jones]

Likeable, Sociable and Smart. So Why a Troll?
By The Daily Telegraph Published: 08th October 2014 11:28 AM Last Updated: 08th October 2014 11:28 AM


 
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Found dead after being outed as an obsessive Twitter abuser of Kate and Gerry McCann, Brenda Leyland's case confounds stereotypes, writes Elizabeth Grice

We know enough about trolls to realise that they are not a uniform bunch of internet thugs and that it is unwise to lump them together into one category of nastiness.

There are the wicked, the criminal, the drunk, the disinhibited, the sad, the obsessives. This week, the pitiful case of Brenda Leyland, who was found dead in a Leicester hotel soon after being unmasked as a remorseless online abuser of Kate and Gerry McCann, overturned even the broadest understanding of what the constituency of trolling really is.

There is an incontinent sort of viciousness that goes with attacking people from the anonymity of a Twitter account. No one in the neat village of Burton Overy, Leics, suspected that Mrs Leyland had a cruel bone in her body, let alone the sort of mindset to pursue a vitriolic campaign again the grieving parents of the missing child, Madeleine McCann.

A likeable, churchgoing woman of no obviously strong views, she seemed more interested in gardening, photography and quizzes than any solitary obsession with tweeting. She also had a passionate, innocuous leading role in the village's annual scarecrow competition.

Yet, hiding behind the alias @sweepyface, she insinuated that the McCanns were implicated in their three-year-old daughter's disappearance during a family holiday in Portugal in 2007 - a theme that had obsessed her for four years. According to the website BuzzFeed, she was sometimes posting more than 50 tweets a day, even on Christmas Eve, beginning at 7am and going on until midnight.

A common complaint was that the McCanns were trying to silence their critics. The accusations were not original but her turn of phrase was blithe and deadly. "You will be hated for the rest of your miserable, evil, conniving lives, have a nice day!"

When Mrs Leyland was confronted by Sky News about her campaign of hate last Thursday, her vituperation shrivelled like a pricked balloon. She mumbled about being entitled to say such things and said she hoped she had not broken the law. Soon after, she went to ground. Now she is dead. It looks certain that the two events are connected and that she could not live with the ignominy of being a named troll, suddenly outed, suddenly herself the target of torrents of abuse and forced to face the consequences.

Brenda Leyland, nee Shevlin, was born in Stockport, Lancs, the daughter of Colin Shevlin, a squadron leader in the RAF, and his wife, Doreen. As a girl, she had attended the Convent of the Immaculate Heart of Mary in West Sussex, and went on to study at Goldsmith's College, London University. Her marriage to Michael Leyland, a company director, ended around 2000 and he remarried in 2002. To say that Mrs Leyland, a 63-year-old divorcee with two grown-up sons, did not conform to the image of the incoherent, half-literate troller who spits poison as a reflex compensation for lack of self-esteem, is an understatement. She fitted well, if unobtrusively, into the village life of Burton Overy. She was outwardly sociable, but there was an element of loneliness and disappointment in her life that had intensified with age and the break-up of her marriage - and she had developed such an obsession with the McCanns that almost all the 4,625 tweets she sent from December 2010 were about the case, many taking issue with their supporters.

It was an industrious hidden life. Emboldened by disguise, she shared the assumption of all internet trolls that she could say anything she pleased without being held accountable. As Prof Mary Beard told The Daily Telegraph when she was campaigning last year against misogynist trolling: "Anonymity has disguised the nature of authorship. It has allowed these evanescent creatures on the web to blast off without thinking of the victims. Somehow no one in this conversation is real. They are just names." Mrs Leyland tweeted triumphantly at the height of her persecution: "You can move to France, anywhere, but social media is everywhere! Our memories are long, Maddie deserves it."

Her message seemed mild compared with some of the foul-mouthed stuff that has continued to rain down on the McCanns - but there was menace in it, too. Questioned by Sky News reporter Martin Brunt, she said she was "entitled" to tweet as she did - though her justification, without the protective cloak of anonymity, sounded far from confident. Brunt, one of the most respected television reporters in the business, was invited into Mrs Leyland's house and spent time talking to her about her concerns over the McCann case off-camera. Inevitably, he has himself now become the victim of trolling, with a Facebook page set up under the title "Sack Martin Brunt".

What he could not have known when he approached her was the personal tragedy behind Mrs Leyland's confessed obsession. She was estranged from her eldest son, Daniel, and never spoke of him. Saturday, the day when her body was found in Leicester's Marriott hotel, was Daniel's 37th birthday.

A neighbour commented: "Deep down it must have hurt that he cut his mum out of his life. Whether that made her anti the McCanns, who seemed to have a very loving, supportive and happy family, we will never know. We were friends but grew apart because she was a one-way ticket. She could be quite nasty and was very controlling.

"When Madeleine first went missing she used to go over to her home village all the time. She used to go to the local pub and the shops telling everyone what she thought about the family. It seemed very odd behaviour."

Mrs Leyland's younger son, Ben, 30, lives in Los Angeles where he works for a law firm. He posted a brief emotional tribute on Facebook saying: "I love you mum and I will miss you forever. I am love and I am light, thanks to you."

In the absence of the one person who seemed to value her, such village friendships as she had sound poor substitutes for meaningful family life. Mrs Leyland's mother died in 2004 and she had distant relations in Australia, but few in Britain, other than her estranged son. A friend described her as "lonely beyond belief."

A neighbour in Burton Overy whose son is a friend of Mrs Leyland's son, Ben, said: "I just can't understand why she would have posted those things. No one in this village can. But then, for her to take her life is even more inexplicable. She just packed her bags and took off."

Another villager suggested that the threat of being unmasked and prosecuted was overwhelming.

"She was a proud, very bright articulate and upstanding lady and the thought of a prison sentence hanging over her would have devastated her. Sadly, she couldn't live with herself."

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[stephen25000]

Likeable, Sociable and Smart. So Why a Troll?
By The Daily Telegraph Published: 08th October 2014 11:28 AM Last Updated: 08th October 2014 11:28 AM


 
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Found dead after being outed as an obsessive Twitter abuser of Kate and Gerry McCann, Brenda Leyland's case confounds stereotypes, writes Elizabeth Grice

We know enough about trolls to realise that they are not a uniform bunch of internet thugs and that it is unwise to lump them together into one category of nastiness.

There are the wicked, the criminal, the drunk, the disinhibited, the sad, the obsessives. This week, the pitiful case of Brenda Leyland, who was found dead in a Leicester hotel soon after being unmasked as a remorseless online abuser of Kate and Gerry McCann, overturned even the broadest understanding of what the constituency of trolling really is.

There is an incontinent sort of viciousness that goes with attacking people from the anonymity of a Twitter account. No one in the neat village of Burton Overy, Leics, suspected that Mrs Leyland had a cruel bone in her body, let alone the sort of mindset to pursue a vitriolic campaign again the grieving parents of the missing child, Madeleine McCann.

A likeable, churchgoing woman of no obviously strong views, she seemed more interested in gardening, photography and quizzes than any solitary obsession with tweeting. She also had a passionate, innocuous leading role in the village's annual scarecrow competition.

Yet, hiding behind the alias @sweepyface, she insinuated that the McCanns were implicated in their three-year-old daughter's disappearance during a family holiday in Portugal in 2007 - a theme that had obsessed her for four years. According to the website BuzzFeed, she was sometimes posting more than 50 tweets a day, even on Christmas Eve, beginning at 7am and going on until midnight.

A common complaint was that the McCanns were trying to silence their critics. The accusations were not original but her turn of phrase was blithe and deadly. "You will be hated for the rest of your miserable, evil, conniving lives, have a nice day!"

When Mrs Leyland was confronted by Sky News about her campaign of hate last Thursday, her vituperation shrivelled like a pricked balloon. She mumbled about being entitled to say such things and said she hoped she had not broken the law. Soon after, she went to ground. Now she is dead. It looks certain that the two events are connected and that she could not live with the ignominy of being a named troll, suddenly outed, suddenly herself the target of torrents of abuse and forced to face the consequences.

Brenda Leyland, nee Shevlin, was born in Stockport, Lancs, the daughter of Colin Shevlin, a squadron leader in the RAF, and his wife, Doreen. As a girl, she had attended the Convent of the Immaculate Heart of Mary in West Sussex, and went on to study at Goldsmith's College, London University. Her marriage to Michael Leyland, a company director, ended around 2000 and he remarried in 2002. To say that Mrs Leyland, a 63-year-old divorcee with two grown-up sons, did not conform to the image of the incoherent, half-literate troller who spits poison as a reflex compensation for lack of self-esteem, is an understatement. She fitted well, if unobtrusively, into the village life of Burton Overy. She was outwardly sociable, but there was an element of loneliness and disappointment in her life that had intensified with age and the break-up of her marriage - and she had developed such an obsession with the McCanns that almost all the 4,625 tweets she sent from December 2010 were about the case, many taking issue with their supporters.

It was an industrious hidden life. Emboldened by disguise, she shared the assumption of all internet trolls that she could say anything she pleased without being held accountable. As Prof Mary Beard told The Daily Telegraph when she was campaigning last year against misogynist trolling: "Anonymity has disguised the nature of authorship. It has allowed these evanescent creatures on the web to blast off without thinking of the victims. Somehow no one in this conversation is real. They are just names." Mrs Leyland tweeted triumphantly at the height of her persecution: "You can move to France, anywhere, but social media is everywhere! Our memories are long, Maddie deserves it."

Her message seemed mild compared with some of the foul-mouthed stuff that has continued to rain down on the McCanns - but there was menace in it, too. Questioned by Sky News reporter Martin Brunt, she said she was "entitled" to tweet as she did - though her justification, without the protective cloak of anonymity, sounded far from confident. Brunt, one of the most respected television reporters in the business, was invited into Mrs Leyland's house and spent time talking to her about her concerns over the McCann case off-camera. Inevitably, he has himself now become the victim of trolling, with a Facebook page set up under the title "Sack Martin Brunt".

What he could not have known when he approached her was the personal tragedy behind Mrs Leyland's confessed obsession. She was estranged from her eldest son, Daniel, and never spoke of him. Saturday, the day when her body was found in Leicester's Marriott hotel, was Daniel's 37th birthday.

A neighbour commented: "Deep down it must have hurt that he cut his mum out of his life. Whether that made her anti the McCanns, who seemed to have a very loving, supportive and happy family, we will never know. We were friends but grew apart because she was a one-way ticket. She could be quite nasty and was very controlling.

"When Madeleine first went missing she used to go over to her home village all the time. She used to go to the local pub and the shops telling everyone what she thought about the family. It seemed very odd behaviour."

Mrs Leyland's younger son, Ben, 30, lives in Los Angeles where he works for a law firm. He posted a brief emotional tribute on Facebook saying: "I love you mum and I will miss you forever. I am love and I am light, thanks to you."

In the absence of the one person who seemed to value her, such village friendships as she had sound poor substitutes for meaningful family life. Mrs Leyland's mother died in 2004 and she had distant relations in Australia, but few in Britain, other than her estranged son. A friend described her as "lonely beyond belief."

A neighbour in Burton Overy whose son is a friend of Mrs Leyland's son, Ben, said: "I just can't understand why she would have posted those things. No one in this village can. But then, for her to take her life is even more inexplicable. She just packed her bags and took off."

Another villager suggested that the threat of being unmasked and prosecuted was overwhelming.

"She was a proud, very bright articulate and upstanding lady and the thought of a prison sentence hanging over her would have devastated her. Sadly, she couldn't live with herself."

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At the moment as the cause of her death has yet to be established, perhaps some people should be quiet.

I note the Telegraph doesn't give any mention to the nasty little trolls who support the mccanns.

Why is that 'alfred' ?

Any ideas ?

[Eleanor]

How awfully sad.

[lizzibif]

How awfully sad.

very sad indeed...(Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned...A woman rejected in love can be very angry and dangerous)

[Montclair]

I see the journalist has to resort to some kind psychological analysis of why Brenda Leyland tweeted about Madeleine McCann's disappearance. Why can't these McCann apologists see that, like so many other people, she most probably was scandalised that the parents [moderated] neglected their children, they become celebritities and the darlings of the UK establishment. The press wants us all to believe that anyone who questions the McCanns' version must somehow be mentally unstable, obsessive and have serious problems in their lives. I suppose you could say that Emile Zola was an obsessive when he campaigned for Alfred Dreyfus and wrote "J'Accuse".

[Brietta]

Reluctant ?

You don't read, or you ignore what you have been already told.

The relevant information has now been passed to the Police.

Now you've made a claim that the two links from the B.B.C. were altered/faked..............

In which Hogan-Howe admits the dossier was given to them by the mccann family and he said, with a slip of the tongue 'murder' then 'missing child'.

Mmmm.

You have made a statement on a number of occasions in which you claim uncategorically that death threats were made to Dr Amaral and have implied these are connected to Madeleine McCann's case.

You have consistently refused to give a source for these comments … the exceedingly lame excuse that they are in your dossier will not suffice.

You have made a claim which you are unable to substantiate … one can only surmise that the claim you make is false … and you know that to be the case.

[stephen25000]

You have made a statement on a number of occasions in which you claim uncategorically that death threats were made to Dr Amaral and have implied these are connected to Madeleine McCann's case.

You have consistently refused to give a source for these comments … the exceedingly lame excuse that they are in your dossier will not suffice.

You have made a claim which you are unable to substantiate … one can only surmise that the claim you make is false … and you know that to be the case.

Ah more diversion.

The documents/files/posts are now with the police.

It is for them to deal with.

What you 'think' is irrelevant.

You can attack me if you wish, but it will get you nowhere.

Now you accused me last night of posting altered/faked B.B.C. links..........................

[ferryman]

I see the journalist has to resort to some kind psychological analysis of why Brenda Leyland tweeted about Madeleine McCann's disappearance. Why can't these McCann apologists see that, like so many other people, she most probably was scandalised that the parents [moderated] neglected their children, they become celebritities and the darlings of the UK establishment. The press wants us all to believe that anyone who questions the McCanns' version must somehow be mentally unstable, obsessive and have serious problems in their lives. I suppose you could say that Emile Zola was an obsessive when he campaigned for Alfred Dreyfus and wrote "J'Accuse".

Sadly the Brenda Leyland legacy lives on, epitomised in the post above ...

[lizzibif]

You have made a statement on a number of occasions in which you claim uncategorically that death threats were made to Dr Amaral and have implied these are connected to Madeleine McCann's case.

You have consistently refused to give a source for these comments … the exceedingly lame excuse that they are in your dossier will not suffice.

You have made a claim which you are unable to substantiate … one can only surmise that the claim you make is false … and you know that to be the case.

I agree..

[lizzibif]

Ah more diversion.

The documents/files/posts are now with the police.

It is for them to deal with.

What you 'think' is irrelevant.

You can attack me if you wish, but it will get you nowhere.

Now you accused me last night of posting altered/faked B.B.C. links..........................

The only diversion is on your part Stephen  %£&)**# shot yourself in foot once again  %£&)**#

[stephen25000]

I agree..

Of course you do.

You support the mccanns.

and you will therefore excuse the behaviour of any fellow 'supporter'.