Is Jeremy Bamber a psychopath?

[Holly Goodhead]

Why would he not allow the police to examine his medical records in '85?  &%+((£

I thought it was his adoption file?

[Myster]

I thought it was his adoption file?

Could have been... although before trial he was reluctant to submit to medical examination. According to CAL - six years later in Full Sutton further reports concluded that he was 'personable, intelligent and cunning . . . inwardly cold and unfeeling'.
 

[Holly Goodhead]

Could have been... although before trial he was reluctant to submit to medical examination. According to CAL - six years later in Full Sutton further reports concluded that he was 'personable, intelligent and [cunning . . . inwardly cold and unfeeling'.

Whether JB is guilty or innocent I would imagine the above is a natural outcome of spending years as a Cat A prisoner.  Or maybe I just suffer from confirmation bias  &%+((£

[Holly Goodhead]

I don't understand why lay people want to label JB a psychopath when the likes of Prof Egan have undertaken a formal assessment of JB and found no case for even "mild psychopathy". 

http://jeremybamber.org/psychological-reports/

The fact JB has not been formally diagnosed with any mental illness or psychopathy doesn't make him innocent.  No more than passing a lie detector test does.   

We haven't seen all 27 test results but I can't imagine a situation where Prof Egan would not have looked through JB's entire prison file, including previous assessments, to make the comments he has.

[Holly Goodhead]

Barrister Flo Krause acted for JB with regard to downgrading his category.  She claims the following:

"There was never any direct evidence in this case, no motive was ever established and even psychology cannot identify any factor in Jeremy's profile that could help understand why he might have done it. If ever a reasonable doubt existed, this must be the case for it."

http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/patrons-and-supporters

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/7335058.stm

Again, as with Prof Egan, I find it difficult to believe that Flo Krause did not go through JB's prison file with a fine- tooth comb over, including all assessments, when she was arguing in court for a downgrade of category.

[Nicholas]

Barrister Flo Krause acted for JB with regard to downgrading his category.  She claims the following:

"There was never any direct evidence in this case, no motive was ever established and even psychology cannot identify any factor in Jeremy's profile that could help understand why he might have done it. If ever a reasonable doubt existed, this must be the case for it."

http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/patrons-and-supporters

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/7335058.stm

Again, as with Prof Egan, I find it difficult to believe that Flo Krause did not go through JB's prison file with a fine- tooth comb over, including all assessments, when she was arguing in court for a downgrade of category.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9436.msg460092#msg460092


Jackiepreece: "All I can say is good luck,nice scam Jeremy http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=1775.0

Grahame: "Truth is he has done this to several people, just dumped them when they outlive their usefulness. Let this be a warning to everybody who consider themselves to be "personal friends" with him, be careful because I guarantee that you will get hurt.http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1775.msg55653.html#msg55653

Daisy:The Real Jeremy Bamber  http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3187.msg119150#msg119150

[adam]

Barrister Flo Krause acted for JB with regard to downgrading his category.  She claims the following:

"There was never any direct evidence in this case, no motive was ever established and even psychology cannot identify any factor in Jeremy's profile that could help understand why he might have done it. If ever a reasonable doubt existed, this must be the case for it."

http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/patrons-and-supporters

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/7335058.stm

Again, as with Prof Egan, I find it difficult to believe that Flo Krause did not go through JB's prison file with a fine- tooth comb over, including all assessments, when she was arguing in court for a downgrade of category.

What is 'direct evidence'. A robber being caught on CCTV leaving a bank with a bag saying 'SWAG' on. Or someone's blood, fingerprints, hair & clothes fibers being on a murdered body ?

As for 'forensic evidence breakthrough', the last one I remember was on the clothes of David Norris & Gary Dobson.

[Nicholas]

What is 'direct evidence'. A robber being caught on CCTV leaving a bank with a bag saying 'SWAG' on. Or someone's blood, fingerprints, hair & clothes fibers being on a murdered body ?

As for 'forensic evidence breakthrough', the last one I remember was on the clothes of David Norris & Gary Dobson.

Flo Krause claimed, "and even psychology cannot identify any factor in Jeremy's profile that could help understand why he might have done it."

ALL of Bambers psychology assessments have been based on his denial therefore making them ALL false positive errors!

[Angelo222]

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9436.msg460092#msg460092


Jackiepreece: "All I can say is good luck,nice scam Jeremy http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=1775.0

Grahame: "Truth is he has done this to several people, just dumped them when they outlive their usefulness. Let this be a warning to everybody who consider themselves to be "personal friends" with him, be careful because I guarantee that you will get hurt.http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1775.msg55653.html#msg55653

Daisy:The Real Jeremy Bamber  http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3187.msg119150#msg119150

Convicted killers should not be allowed access to the outside world except for immediate next of kin and their lawyer.

[Nicholas]

Convicted killers should not be allowed access to the outside world except for immediate next of kin and their lawyer.

You could always write to David Gauke https://www.gov.uk/government/people/david-gauke

[APRIL]

Convicted killers should not be allowed access to the outside world except for immediate next of kin and their lawyer.

I'm not disagreeing with what you say, but what about those who insist that they're innocent  -although I'll guarantee not as many are as SAY they are  -because they seem to be able to claim a certain hierarchy within the prison system in that they're not QUITE guilty. Such restrictions would certainly curtail much of Jeremy's activities.

[Caroline]

Barrister Flo Krause acted for JB with regard to downgrading his category.  She claims the following:

"There was never any direct evidence in this case, no motive was ever established and even psychology cannot identify any factor in Jeremy's profile that could help understand why he might have done it. If ever a reasonable doubt existed, this must be the case for it."

http://www.jeremy-bamber.co.uk/patrons-and-supporters

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/essex/7335058.stm

Again, as with Prof Egan, I find it difficult to believe that Flo Krause did not go through JB's prison file with a fine- tooth comb over, including all assessments, when she was arguing in court for a downgrade of category.

Of course he had a motive, inheritence.

[Nicholas]

I'm not disagreeing with what you say, but what about those who insist that they're innocent  -although I'll guarantee not as many are as SAY they are  -because they seem to be able to claim a certain hierarchy within the prison system in that they're not QUITE guilty. Such restrictions would certainly curtail much of Jeremy's activities.

The government could introduce tighter restrictions on whole life tariff prisoners like Bamber. That could be a start. We know Bamber only maintains innocence because he is a coward and enjoys the attention his infamy brings him.

Prison security staff, especially where whole life tariff prisoners are held, should be monitoring all incoming and outgoing mail, phone calls etc but it's not happening.

I very much doubt Daisy's complaint was dealt with, other than being recorded on Bambers security file. It may not have even been recorded.

[Nicholas]

Could have been... although before trial he was reluctant to submit to medical examination. According to CAL - six years later in Full Sutton further reports concluded that he was 'personable, intelligent and cunning . . . inwardly cold and unfeeling'.

A psychopath!

[Nicholas]

Whether JB is guilty or innocent I would imagine the above is a natural outcome of spending years as a Cat A prisoner.  Or maybe I just suffer from confirmation bias  &%+((£

Adoption maybe?

Multiple carerers maybe?

Attachment issues maybe?

Inability to express emotion maybe?




Jeremy Bamber has publicly claimed he has not been effected by his incarceration!